Landlocked China

The title says it all.

How does the world develop if China is landlocked?

This just jumped into my head and I have no idea what would happen or what effect it would have on history.
 
It might mean a much stronger presence of Fujianese, Korean, Guangdongese, Shandongese etc. ships on the world's seas. If what is today the Chinese coast does not become part of China, its people will develop independently, and they will have ships.

Maybe the Three Kingdoms thing emnds differently, and we get 'China' and Wu?
 
what do you mean by landlocked? do you mean a nation calling itself china develops and remains in the interior of the region we currently know as china? or something else?
 
This is landlocked China.

EDIT: With underground rivers, no less!

landlockedchina.GIF
 
This is landlocked China.

EDIT: With underground rivers, no less!

Yes something like this.

be nice if populated by another culture that differs from Chinese though that another question altogether.

So if China is landlocked it has to trade overland which means dealing with external cultures to develop.

Would the chese culture as we know it still develop?

I seem to have more questions than answers. :eek:
 
Well...china did not start as a nation on the banks of the sea...

They will still expand to the coastal area I guess...
 
Are you sure this is not a geography WI ? These , as an unwritten rule ( someone should get around making this official) , belong to the ASB forum.
 
Wait.. Is that white mass off the coast supposed to be land? In which case, isn't this ASB?

Are you sure this is not a geography WI ? These , as an unwritten rule ( someone should get around making this official) , belong to the ASB forum.
Dunno, there's a fair number of geographic WIs in the pre-1900 forum. The ones in the ASB forums tend to be "WI the continent of Atlantis existed?" or "WI the elevations of the earth were reversed?"- stuff much less likely, or outright impossible, to have occured.


and I don't think the OP was asking for an extra spit of land on the east coast on China in the first place, so it's not that the thread was meant like that anywho.
 

Hendryk

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I don't understand how China could be landlocked. It has a coastline, doesn't it? Short of altering the geography of East Asia in an ASB-type fashion, the only way for China to be landlocked would be for another equally powerful civilization to develop near the coast in the Neolithic, early enough that the Han neither get to expand eastward nor absorb that competitor as they did all others who got in their way. And such a change is so far-reaching that you may not get something resembling the China of OTL to begin with, making the question moot.
 
The title says it all.

How does the world develop if China is landlocked?

This just jumped into my head and I have no idea what would happen or what effect it would have on history.
Who/what so dominates the coasts as to bar China from it? That will make considerable difference, esp. if China does not assimilate them.

HTG
 
Wouldn't it be easier to consider if China itself splintered apart at some time? Perhaps divided into three or more kingdoms. One even seperates Tibet and Manchuria to further divide the region.
 
How about the Wu, during the 10 Kingdoms period, conquering the Southern Han, Wuyue, and Min. This would cut of several of the other kingdoms from the coast.
 
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