Land of Turkey and Deer

And I wanted an opinion on the title. I never did like this thread's title, and I've been racking my mind trying to think of another one. A part of me suspects the lack of interest in this TL is partially because of the bad title. But when thinking of alternatives (not coming up with much unfortunately), the "Land of Turkey and Deer" just kinda took a sentimental or nostalgic note to it, hard to explain. Anyway, I was wondering how many of you guys really didn't like the title. I always wanted something in Mayan, but I highly doubt anybody would even know that it was a Mayan TL at all just by the title.

I like the title okay. Just my $.02.

Also, I just finished rereading the whole thing. I can...kinda see what you said about it being a rough draft, yeah. But it's very interesting, about a subject that isn't covered so well on this board, and I think with some expansion of the (what would have been) Postclassical Mayan segments it would be a lot better. It kind of skips from "okay, Classical Period!" to "okay, Spanish now!" Not that how the Mayans deal with the Spanish isn't interesting; I just think it could use a bit more build-up on the internal politics (if for no other reason than so we get used to the city names!) and how the Mayans avoid the Collapse. Again, just my 2 cents. I'm looking forward to whatever future work you do, for sure.
 
Yeah, that's the exact problem I had with it. Probably just went that way because I tend to be rather erratic like that. I was also planning on expanding with the Classic itself when I get around to a redo, some developments there are very important, like Kan not moving their capital from Dzibanche to Calakmul. Also over the past month or so I've learned even more, a lot more in hindsight. Now I can't believe that I never knew about such things as the 18 Images of the Serpent, or the White Bone Centipede. I also can't believe I didn't know anything about the House of the Itzas, the Queen of Saal, and dynastic history of Mutul. I sure was dumb back then. :p

EDIT: Hmm, did the polls link you here? Because I'm sure this thread must've been like 7 or 8 pages back. Also, I did come up with one alternate name, U Kahlay Katun: The Count of Years. Not completely sold on it myself, but it's something. Alternatively I could call it Uaxaclajuun Ub'aah Kaan (or in English, 18 Images of the Snake) after an important regal/war symbol used in the area. Yeah, I really like the esoteric ones because the Maya friggin' loved esoteric language and stuff, so I think they'd have approved.
 
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Yeah, that's the exact problem I had with it. Probably just went that way because I tend to be rather erratic like that. I was also planning on expanding with the Classic itself when I get around to a redo, some developments there are very important, like Kan not moving their capital from Dzibanche to Calakmul. Also over the past month or so I've learned even more, a lot more in hindsight. Now I can't believe that I never knew about such things as the 18 Images of the Serpent, or the White Bone Centipede. I also can't believe I didn't know anything about the House of the Itzas, the Queen of Saal, and dynastic history of Mutul. I sure was dumb back then. :p

Agreed! (well, not so much about the being dumb part) It's like I feel about my attempts at a post-Apollo TL, the more I read and dig around. I keep finding new interesting stuff that might have a major impact.

EDIT: Hmm, did the polls link you here? Because I'm sure this thread must've been like 7 or 8 pages back. Also, I did come up with one alternate name, U Kahlay Katun: The Count of Years. Not completely sold on it myself, but it's something. Alternatively I could call it Uaxaclajuun Ub'aah Kaan (or in English, 18 Images of the Snake) after an important regal/war symbol used in the area. Yeah, I really like the esoteric ones because the Maya friggin' loved esoteric language and stuff, so I think they'd have approved.

Well, sort of. But mostly, I had (have) just been playing an epic game as the Maya in Civ 4 and I went "Hm, I really want to do more as these guys, but the game is a bit limited and in EUIII you're screwed...hm, there was that TL...(digs through subscription list)...ah-ha!"
 
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