This is more or less in line with my long term thinkingIt probably becomes a 'duchy of pomerania' with a Russian, or otherwise russia friendly, prince as its monarch.
This is more or less in line with my long term thinkingIt probably becomes a 'duchy of pomerania' with a Russian, or otherwise russia friendly, prince as its monarch.
France never broke Illyria off in 1809 as IOTL but tossing Petrograd some of Galicia (the southern bit at least) would certainly be an optionBeen thinking about what you said for a light punishment for the Austrian empire, and as far as changing territories that Russia would accept, increasing the size of the illyrian provinces to go all the way to the Drava River is an option. And maybe Russia wouldn't mind breaking off Galicia into another Russian satellite kingdom/duchy?
Both options would have interesting effects on the future of the Austrian empire and actually reduce the ethnic tensions within it.
Yeah. Britain will not be having a good century in this tl.the violent murder of Ferdinand and revolutionary atmosphere that followed was news received essentially as the Congress began
At least he might serve as inspiration for in-universe british SIs wanting to save the British Empire and show how New Spain could've been ruled much better by them while the french-speaking users exclaim how ASB that is even for an ASB scenarioYeah. Britain will not be having a good century in this tl.
Also, bye Ferdinand. We hardly knew ye.
Thanks! If Spain is smart they’ll “Canadize” the New World, a lot of the OTL revolutionaries were after all monarchists up until the very end.Honestly a pretty good chapter despite being so short, Spain will have a much harder and brutal time if they somehow try and take back control of the colonies, simply because they'll now be facing troops who not only are burning with patriotic revolutionary fervor but also have a great deal of experience in fighting the British inside their terrain, and while Spain is definitely in a better shape in all matters, I don't see them succeeding here even more than in otl.
Here's tl Hidalgo and hopefully he can make mexico a better place than Santa Anna ever did.
I'm also curious to see how the treaty will affect the British, because outside of the Channel Islands there's no territorial ambitions to be captured, and I don't think any of the countries in Europe are in a position to enforce a treaty of Britain abandoning It's colonies as well the captured ones, although considering how Napoleon will ask for a crippling amount of reparations, enforced military neutrality and neutering alongside general British exhaustion of it's resources and people, Britain might not be able to defend their far flung empire, especially if a certain USA decides to "review borders" with Canada.
Don't you just hate to see it? 🤣Britain might find itself in a position where reentry to continental trade is contingent on repatriating stolen colonies and other such concessions. Only Austria doesn’t detest them at this point and Austria will retreat and concede to Napoleon’s line on London if they can get off easily on territorial concessions
Something something worlds tiniest violinDon't you just hate to see it? 🤣
That could have a interesting effect of the colonies being basically independent de facto while de jure being "His Most Catholic Majesty faithful Servants", with Spain having a preferential trading benefits (alongside the French of course) and defending their colonies on military and diplomatic levels, something that would definitely get on the nerves of the US and Brazil depending on how serious and willing the Spanish are to it.Thanks! If Spain is smart they’ll “Canadize” the New World, a lot of the OTL revolutionaries were after all monarchists up until the very end.
Britain might find itself in a position where reentry to continental trade is contingent on repatriating stolen colonies and other such concessions. Only Austria doesn’t detest them at this point and Austria will retreat and concede to Napoleon’s line on London if they can get off easily on territorial concessions
This is sort of what I've had in mind; Infante Carlos was rigid about divine right and his own Catholic faith but other than that didn't have very well-developed political views. That said, I'm skeptical he'd budge much from the Bourbon approach to colonial governance, IOW extract extract extract and oppress violently when there's pushback.That could have a interesting effect of the colonies being basically independent de facto while de jure being "His Most Catholic Majesty faithful Servants", with Spain having a preferential trading benefits (alongside the French of course) and defending their colonies on military and diplomatic levels, something that would definitely get on the nerves of the US and Brazil depending on how serious and willing the Spanish are to it.
Ireland's push for, at minimum, Grattan's Parliament - which was established in 1782 and only abrogated under the Act of Union as recently as 1800 - will be covered soon.1. I'm wondering if/when the Irish will revolt against the Brits since they have a somewhat weaker army.
2. I hope Napoleon mends France relationship with the Ottomans so they can have control of the Mediterranean so Russia doesn't betray him.
3. I want to see a 'Hispanic Alliance' between the former viceroyalties of Spain against both the Brits and Brazil.
Their one advantage is that there's a lot of "soft" land north of La Plata and Spain will have its hands full elsewhere, but yeahBrazil: oh no im in danger
Yeah, worth reminding the Spanish didn't have as strong reaction to the independence of la Plata, Chile and Paraguay, they were much more keen on trying to retain Peru alongside Venezuela and Colombia, and that's not even mentioning Mexico's war of independence being the bloodiest compared to other Hispanic countries, the Spain were THAT determined to keep it as New Spain. Meaning that they'll take the loss of Plata to instead focus on their actual profitable colonies.This is sort of what I've had in mind; Infante Carlos was rigid about divine right and his own Catholic faith but other than that didn't have very well-developed political views. That said, I'm skeptical he'd budge much from the Bourbon approach to colonial governance, IOW extract extract extract and oppress violently when there's pushback.
Ireland's push for, at minimum, Grattan's Parliament - which was established in 1782 and only abrogated under the Act of Union as recently as 1800 - will be covered soon.
And Napoleon will have some interesting foreign policy decisions to make post-1815 once Aix is all wrapped up, that's for sure.
Their one advantage is that there's a lot of "soft" land north of La Plata and Spain will have its hands full elsewhere, but yeah
I have some decisions to make on how, exactly, Spain’s colonies evolve moving forward, that’s for sureYeah, worth reminding the Spanish didn't have as strong reaction to the independence of la Plata, Chile and Paraguay, they were much more keen on trying to retain Peru alongside Venezuela and Colombia, and that's not even mentioning Mexico's war of independence being the bloodiest compared to other Hispanic countries, the Spain were THAT determined to keep it as New Spain. Meaning that they'll take the loss of Plata to instead focus on their actual profitable colonies.
And yes, as Sarthaka mentioned in the post, even with massive and radical changes to Spanish conduct in it's colonies... The damage would've gone untreated for very long to actually make a difference, especially now that the colonies are not only burning with patriotism but also have repelled British invasion thrice on the continent as well as still having the success of the US and a still powerful and living French empire with it's inspiring Napoleonic code. While Spain will certainly try and impose their ruleship , I still see them only retaining the Caribbean.