Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by Admiral A. Kolchak, Aug 7, 2018.
Qing Dynasty in 1850:
(no idea how to host pics on imgur now they've changed their UI again.)
Seems like your work has shown up elsewhere on the internet.
That's something I thought I'd never see.
Although in that video I don't actually see anything of mine.
Ah my bad. It's a two parter. It's at 11:11 here in part 2
It's pretty interesting since I made the unbelievably stupid mistake of forgetting to show the transfer of Hong Kong to the Chinese, and yet he's using that video in his video about Hong Kong.
Great video, as always. I'm adding this to my collection immediately.
I wonder why Mongolians and Tibetians didn't revolt?
They had a high amount of autonomy under the Qing dynasty, and were mostly left to their own. During the Nepalese invasion, the forces fighting them were entirely Tibetan; the Qing did not send any forces to Tibet, although they did have larger issues to face. The Qing tried to keep the Han, Mongol, Manchu, and Tibetan parts of their empire separate, and as a result unrest in one part did not necessarily translate to unrest in other parts. The relationship between them was sort of like the internal politics of Poland-Lithuania.
China, 1 July 1937
What eventually happened to Liu Xiang?
He died unexpectedly in January 1938, possibly having been poisoned by Chiang Kai-shek. His death allowed the KMT to expand its influence into Sichuan.
Apparently for some unknown reason "Liu Cunhou" at wikipedia now redirects to "Deng Xihou". They're admittedly both Sichuan warlords but on the other hand they're still different people, and the Deng Xihou article only mentions Liu Cunhou once. I can't figure why this is a thing.
That's weird indeed
So, to continue my work on this project, I've decided to compile an exhaustive record of political changes during the warlord era. With the understanding that it it is difficult for a map to accurately and concisely display them all, I have decided to make this in list form, which will both make it much easier for you to find information you need, and also for me to make refinements and corrections to my own maps. Here is the first part, which concerns the various government(s) of the Republic of China, from 1915 to 1928 (later I hope to extend this project to encompass the remainder of the mainland ROC's history, but for now I will focus on the Warlord Era proper):
1915.12.26 - Hongxian Emperor/Yuan Shikai (Declaring Empire)
1916.3.22 - Yuan Shikai (Beiyang Clique)
1916.6.6 - Li Yuanhong (Dominated by Anhui Clique)
1917.5.23 - Li Yuanhong (Independent Government)
1917.7.1 - Zhang Xun (Restoring Great Qing)
1917.7.9 - No Government
1917.8.1 - Feng Guozhang (Zhili Clique, Dominated by Anhui Clique)
1918.10.10 - Xu Shichang (Dominated by Anhui Clique)
1920.7.23 - Xu Shichang (Dominated by Zhili and Fengtian Cliques)
1921.12.24 - Xu Shichang (Dominated by Fengtian Clique)
1922.6.2 - Zhou Ziqi (Dominated by Zhili Clique)
1922.6.11 - Li Yuanhong (Independent (though powerless) Government)
1923.6.14 - Gao Lingwei (Dominated by Zhili Clique)
1923.10.10 - Cao Kun (Zhili Clique)
1924.11.2 - Huang Fu (Independent Government)
1924.11.24 - Duan Qirui (Independent Government)
1926.4.20 - Hu Weide (Dominated by Fengtian and Zhili Cliques)
1926.5.13 - Yan Huiqing (Dominated by Fengtian and Zhili Cliques)
1926.6.22 - Du Xigui (Dominated by Fengtian and Zhili Cliques)
1926.10.1 - Wellington Koo (Dominated by Fengtian and Zhili Cliques)
1927.6.18 - Zhang Zuolin (Fengtian Clique)
1928.6.3 - Beijing Government Dissolved
1917.9.10 - Sun Yat-sen (Kuomintang)
1918.7.5 - Governing Committee (Coalition of Kuomintang, KMT political
allies, Old Guangxi Clique, and Yunnan Clique)
1918.8.21 - Cen Chunxuan (Old Guangxi Clique)
1920.10.24 - Governing Committee (Coalition of Kuomintang, KMT political allies, and Yunnan Clique)
1921.5.5 - Sun Yat-sen (Kuomintang)
1922.6.16 - Canton Government suspended by Guangdong Clique
1923.3.2 - Sun Yat-sen (Kuomintang)
1925.3.12 - Hu Hanmin (Right KMT)
1925.7.1 - Wang Jingwei (Left KMT)
1926.3.20 - Wang Jingwei (Left KMT, Dominated by Chiang Kai-shek)
1926.4.16 - Tan Yankai (Left KMT, Dominated by Chiang Kai-shek)
1926.12.5 - Nationalist Government moved to Wuhan
1926.12.5 - Tan Yankai (Left KMT)
1927.4.10 - Wang Jingwei (Left KMT)
1927.9.15 - Left and Right KMT reconciled.
1927.9.21 - Wuhan Government Dissolved.
1927.4.18 - Chiang Kai-shek (Right KMT)
1927.8.12 - Nanjing Government Dissolved. Continues as the de facto headquarters of the Right KMT
1927.9.21 - Tan Yankai (KMT, Dominated by New Guangxi Clique)
1928.1.1 - Tan Yankai (KMT, Dominated by Chiang Kai-shek)
1928.10.10 - Chiang Kai-shek (KMT)
So would these changes be listed on the map even if there are no physical changes on the map?
I'm not sure about that. I'm currently just trying to make the lists.
Also, if anybody could find some detailed sources on the history of any of Sichuan, Xikang, Guangxi, Hunan, Gansu, Qinghai, or Hubei during this period I would significantly appreciate it. Specifically Sichuan.
well if I do find anything I'll be sure to share though I must admit that sadly my resources on Chinese history for specific provinces is definitely sparse.
I'm suspecting you and the Youtuber Yan Xishan are the same person. Am I right?
You are correct.
Try out QGIS
Separate names with a comma.