Kingdom of the Netherlands part of the German Confederation?

Anderman

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A long long time age i had an account here but i don´t remember the name anymore but one of the Threads i started was about making the Kingdom of the Netherlands part of th German Empire.
Now i want to have the Netherlands part of the German Confederation, what is best POD ?

After Waterloo when the dutch came to the conclusion that they are not strong enough to face the french alone or after the creation of Belgium in 1830?
Could the british empire live with it or are the ports of the nethlerlands to close the british isle?
 
Now i want to have the Netherlands part of the German Confederation, what is best POD ?

1648. After that the Netherlands got its own identity, independent of Germany. Ok, I have to admit that there are other possibilities, Prussia or another German country gaining control of the Netherlands would probably do the trick. Or a French occupation in which the Dutch sought the support of their German brothers. But out of its own choice, with a POD in the early 19th century? No, I don't think it is possible.
 

yourworstnightmare

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Hmm, if the Dutch lost all their colonies, and somehow the House of Oranien lose their power and Congress of Vienna install some German prince I guess it's borderline plausible. Smells like ASBish though.
 
Weird Idea:
War of 1815 goes on longer, france losses, but before this beats the prussians and Austrians a few times. Dutch & British hold back deep in holland for a time and finally, together with the Russians deliver the killing blow to Napoleon.

So the Congress of Vienna tries even harder to keep France under controll than OTL. The Nederlands (and others) get some additonal French territory. As they are not strong enough to hold that on their own the German Confederation is made a anti-french Joint-Security-Alliance.
The Dutch join (keeping their colonies just as Prussia and Austria kept their non-german lands).

This would make Germany tripolar instead of bipolar and might provide funny butterflies.
 
One option for an POD could be after a successful Bundstag in Frankfort a/d Main in 1848.
Or at least a con-federate united Germany which is not dominated by Prussia. So where kingdoms like Hanover stay independent.
Where economic benefits will out weight the small loss of sovereignty.
Since the Nassau's were heavily intermarried in the German noble families there would be no objection from their side.
 

Anderman

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Mh the king of the nethlerlands is the grand duke of luxemburgh which already was part of the german confederation.
And Wilhelm III wanted luxemburgh to be a part of the north german confederation after the german confederation ended.
 
If you change how power was inherited in the house of oranien and kill of a rather small number of heirs and heiresses, the Prussians could inherit the Netherlands.
 
Now i want to have the Netherlands part of the German Confederation, what is best POD ?


While the time line is somewhat more focused in the Americas, Jared's Decades of Darkness features a German confederation of which the Netherlands is an integral part. The Dutch king-emperor is also one of the three co-equal king-emperors of that confederation.
 
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