Kingdom of Belgium in 1748

What if the French who in 1748 had occupied the Austrian Netherlands, created a Kingdom of Belgium under some Bourbon king? Was this possible? And it should include Luxembourg and all the AN and not be part of the HRE anymore.
 
What if the French who in 1748 had occupied the Austrian Netherlands, created a Kingdom of Belgium under some Bourbon king? Was this possible? And it should include Luxembourg and all the AN and not be part of the HRE anymore.

The Bourbon king would've been Felipe of Spain, duke of Parma. But unfortunately he wasn't ambitious enough to want anything more than his Italian duchy, while his wife had been the one wrangling with Maria Theresia to get the crown for her husband, apparently. So after she (Louise-Élisabeth de France) died, the idea was dead in the water.
 
The Bourbon king would've been Felipe of Spain, duke of Parma. But unfortunately he wasn't ambitious enough to want anything more than his Italian duchy, while his wife had been the one wrangling with Maria Theresia to get the crown for her husband, apparently. So after she (Louise-Élisabeth de France) died, the idea was dead in the water.
Maybe some other Bourbon without a throne would have been good enough.
 
Maybe some other Bourbon without a throne would have been good enough.

The only other male Bourbon without a throne at that point is Felipe's youngest brother, Luis. (I'm not counting the various princes du sang in France, since Louis XV never gave them much of a thought). Or it goes into PU with France (which Britain is going to move heaven and raise Hell to prevent).
 
The Bourbon king would've been Felipe of Spain, duke of Parma. But unfortunately he wasn't ambitious enough to want anything more than his Italian duchy, while his wife had been the one wrangling with Maria Theresia to get the crown for her husband, apparently. So after she (Louise-Élisabeth de France) died, the idea was dead in the water.

The problem is not his ambition, but the fact that his mother wanted an Italian duchy for him, preferably the Italian duchy she had originated from, Parma. She had the done the same for Charles until he decided to go off and get himself an Italian kingdom. However, if Parma and Milan can be secured for Felipe. Then Elisabeth Farnese will start to look for something for her last son, Luis. That could easily be the Southern Netherlands. This works well because Louis XV does not seem like a "shopkeeper."
 
Would this Belgium preserve its independence in 1815 and even get some territory from France, like Westhoek? What about Liege, Bouillon and Stavelot -Malmedy?
 
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What if the French who in 1748 had occupied the Austrian Netherlands, created a Kingdom of Belgium under some Bourbon king? Was this possible? And it should include Luxembourg and all the AN and not be part of the HRE anymore.

In such a scenario, why wouldn't France just annex the territory itself?
 
Because France was at the mercy of other powers, and they wanted to hem France in with major powers capable of stopping them getting the Rhine frontier: Holland, Savoy and Prussia on the Rhineland.
I was asking what were the lands annexed by Holland from France in 1815? And would independent Belgium survive independent after Vienna Congress and maybe get Westhoek from France?
 
I was asking what were the lands annexed by Holland from France in 1815? And would independent Belgium survive independent after Vienna Congress and maybe get Westhoek from France?

The butterflies from a Bourbon Belgium could stop the revolution. A big part of the monarchy's collapse in prestige was poor performance in foreign policy.
 
There always a different Maria Theresa or a busy frederick II, Originally the hasburg wanted to trade the Austria Netherlands(rather renamed belgium) to the wittelbasch for Bavaria so if the trade happen, we could get an early kingdom of Austrian Netherlands-Belgium-Burgundy or whatever is named.
 
The butterflies from a Bourbon Belgium could stop the revolution. A big part of the monarchy's collapse in prestige was poor performance in foreign policy.
I thought the revolution was about internal economic and social problems. But if there is no revolution, could France transition towards a constitutional monarchy?
 
Why did Bavarian royal family did not want to swap Bavaria for AN?
That was cause an internal Bavarian Dispute(see War of the Bavarian Sucession) Because Frederick the Great Notice if that happened Austria would be far closer to Prussia and Saxony Proper and increased their porportion in the HRE somerthing would be a massive no no for him(plus giving a more defensible border if they want to fight again to recover silesia) so the Prussian intervened. If the prussian are busy it might happen
 
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