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October 14, 1941, Cavite Naval Yard

The shipyard was busy. Marblehead was in the Dewey Drydock having her bottom scraped while work gangs were retubing her boilers. Houston was loading ammunition as she was due on the firing range the next morning while barges and lighters were ferrying supplies from Cavite to Mariveles to support the submarines and coastal torpedo boat base that has been established there. The magazines had been declared operational the previous week and the hillside tunnels were far more secure than the above ground bunker at Cavite.


USS Walker and three of her sisters were being attacked by a voracious gang of paint locusts. Coolies and sailors were scraping the ships down to the original paint and repainting the fast minelayers into tiger stripe camouflage patterns. The other fast minelayer division had already gone through the process and besides losing some visibility, all of them gained stability as years of paint had disappeared and that lessened the top weight of the ships. Besides looking snazzy, each of the converted destroyers would also leave the refit with a single twin 1.1 inch anti-aircraft mount and four new 20 millimeter machine guns. They had to land the single three inch gun and half of their depth charges to accommodate the anti-aircraft guns but they were not fleet escorts, they needed to only be able to defend themselves.

Question, did these DM's have the 4" guns replaced with 3"/50 cal dual purpose guns, or retain, the 4 x 1 4" /40 cal gun s?
 
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October 15, 1941 Pusan Korea


The division had spent seven days in the port city. Most of the time was spent refurbishing equipment, repairing worn out trucks, and resupplying the larder that would support the division in combat. The 16th Division had been in Manchukuo for several years and it had expected to face the Soviet Far Eastern armies but their orders had changed. The commanding general and his staff knew that the division was to be part of the great drive to the southwest. Initial plans presented over the summer even as the division was still watching the northern border of the Empire, had the entire division allocated to combat in the Philippines in order to keep the Americans from intervening against the main thrust to supply the Home Islands with the critical raw materials it needed to bring glory and wealth.

However plans had changed. One regiment was still allocated to the Philippine Campaign and it would be staged from Palau. The other regiments were to ship to Hainan as theater reserve for the Malayan Campaign. There was enough shipping to move the division now but they would not be part of the initial stages of the campaign as there were not enough ships to assault land another 17,000 men. Instead they would be part of the second wave to support the 25th Army against the Malayan garrison that was growing stronger by the day. Bushido spirit would be sufficient to overcome the decadent colonialists but reinforcements would make the spirit stronger.

As the companies and battalions were due to assemble at mid-morning, sergeants went through the city’s dens of pleasure and trouble one last time for their own enjoyment as well as finding the predictable knuckleheads who would try to join the muster moments before the their orders.

By nightfall, the first troop ship was loaded and by the afternoon of the next day, the troop ships joined the cargo ships and left the harbor, escorted by a pair of training cruisers. Once the convoy passed Okinawa, it split, one regiment heading east for three days and then south to take it outside of the prying eyes of any American patrol planes and the other heading south by southwest on a direct course to Hainan.
 
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October 16, 1941 Vancouver, Canada


The last private enjoyed the last moment of his last kiss with the girl that he had met the night before. His sergeant waited somewhat patiently before coughing too loudly to break the private’s concentration and chivvy him along the pier.

C-Force was going to war, or at least they were going to the possibility of war instead of sitting in garrison. One battalion had been in Jamaica and Bermuda since mobilization while the other had guarded Newfoundland. They had been brigaded together with a half strength artillery regiment and light support services. Originally the force had been designated for deployment to the Hong Kong garrison but they were being diverted to Singapore. Before they reached Singapore, the liners would deposit the men in Australia for additional unit training. Their equipment would catch up to them before the final voyage to Singapore.
 
October 16, 1941 Vancouver, Canada

The last private enjoyed the last moment of his last kiss with the girl that he had met the night before. His sergeant waited somewhat patiently before coughing too loudly to break the private’s concentration and chivvy him along the pier.

C-Force was going to war, or at least they were going to the possibility of war instead of sitting in garrison. One battalion had been in Jamaica and Bermuda since mobilization while the other had guarded Newfoundland. They had been brigaded together with a half strength artillery regiment and light support services. Originally the force had been designated for deployment to the Hong Kong garrison but they were being diverted to Singapore. Before they reached Singapore, the liners would deposit the men in Australia for additional unit training. Their equipment would catch up to them before the final voyage to Singapore.

Looking at an early November arrival in Australia? Will they be stopping and taking a short leave at Pearl?
 
Yeah, methinks Singapore isn't going to go as easily as Japan might think ITTL (and that will affect the Philippines, Burma, et. al.)...
 
Pffft. Yeah right.
Bushido doesn't stop American rounds.


Bushido versus firepower. Guess who wins.

I read somewhere on another thread that the problem with the Japanese militarists was that they never experienced in depth the slaughter of the First World War. I wonder just how true it is that their thinking wasn't better informed because of their lack of the WW1 experience.
 

Errolwi

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October 16, 1941 Vancouver, Canada

... Originally the force had been designated for deployment to the Hong Kong garrison but they were being diverted to Singapore. Before they reached Singapore, the liners would deposit the men in Australia for additional unit training. Their equipment would catch up to them before the final voyage to Singapore.

Does Australia have spare facilities for training Brigade-sized units at this point? I'd love to read the TTL's cable discussions between the Dominions re allocation of resources (OTL's from April-May 1940 about ANZ forces to Egypt are entertaining). I suppose having them going to Singapore will help with the Aussies.

Really enjoying the TL.
 

Ramp-Rat

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Does Australia have spare facilities for training Brigade-sized units at this point? I'd love to read the TTL's cable discussions between the Dominions re allocation of resources (OTL's from April-May 1940 about ANZ forces to Egypt are entertaining). I suppose having them going to Singapore will help with the Aussies.

Really enjoying the TL.


There are millions of acres of prime tropical jungle in the Northern Territories and Queensland, that the Cannadians can go and play war games in. The big problem will be finding the jungle warfair specialists to conduct the training.

RR.
 

Errolwi

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And there are plenty of bush-covered hills in NZ, but strangely the battalions were trained seperately, in the places where there were things like accommodation, water, ranges etc. You can march troops off the ships into virgin jungle if you want, but I suggest they won't be much use to you a few weeks later.
 
Bushido versus firepower. Guess who wins.

I read somewhere on another thread that the problem with the Japanese militarists was that they never experienced in depth the slaughter of the First World War. I wonder just how true it is that their thinking wasn't better informed because of their lack of the WW1 experience.

During the Russo-Japanese War, the Russian defences were comprised of barbed wire, trenches, machine guns and artillery in a manner very similar to WW1. The Japanese were able to storm these defences albeit with horrendous casualties so learned the lesson that an all out offensive combined with a disregard for casualties would enable victory. This was noted by European observers of the war as well and may have informed some of the early WW1 tactics as "Attaque à outrance" seemed to be proved a viable tactic.

Quite probably the Japanese militarists looked to their success in 1904/05 and dismissed the European lack of success using the same tactics as proof of a lack of spirit.
 
During the Russo-Japanese War, the Russian defences were comprised of barbed wire, trenches, machine guns and artillery in a manner very similar to WW1. The Japanese were able to storm these defences albeit with horrendous casualties so learned the lesson that an all out offensive combined with a disregard for casualties would enable victory. This was noted by European observers of the war as well and may have informed some of the early WW1 tactics as "Attaque à outrance" seemed to be proved a viable tactic.

Quite probably the Japanese militarists looked to their success in 1904/05 and dismissed the European lack of success using the same tactics as proof of a lack of spirit.
The Japanese seemed to have taken many of their WW2 tactics, in particular Kansai Kessen and the Banzai charge, from what you said here, from the Russo Japanese war. It seemed they pretty much forgotten that in 35 years things can change heavily.

Although they manage to incorporate modern tech and equipment, they still relied on mass charges and battleships.
 
An interesting fact is that in the Russo-Japanese War observers were highly complimentary about the Japanese military medical system - more "modern", efficient, well supplied etc compared to the Russians. Even before things went off the rails, in WWII the Japanese military medical system was inadequate, and supplies and personnel had a very low logistical priority. As a result of this the fatality rates were well above what should have been, and their disease rates were horrendous.
 
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October 18, 1941 Rabaul


Six Boeing B-17s taxied on the long runway. This was the third batch through the long southern trans-Pacific ferry route. One plane was still in the hangar. An engine was not working right, or at least well enough to risk the aircraft and the more valuable crew on the journey to Port Moresby.

The single battalion of Australian infantry should have been preparing positions, they should have been training, they should have been caching supplies along evacuation rat lines. Instead they were still fundamentally a labor force building out the airfield and improving the harbor. Three dozen American civilian contractors and half a dozen bulldozers were due to arrive at the end of the month to continue improving the strip. Another American chartered freighter was also due to come with 200,000 gallons of aviation fuel and enough bombs to supply three squadrons of B-17s with two missions worth of bombs. Once the American supplies arrived, perhaps the infantry battalion could train again.
 
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