Keynes' Cruisers Volume 2

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You do realise that this timeline is a massive set up for the punchline:
As a result of the post war recession US monetarists will cancel cruiser construction. ;)
 

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So how likely are the Allies are going to reach Germany before the Soviets do?
My money's on the Western Allies.
1. They're doing well/better than OTL on the Overlord front.
2. This version of Dragooon is also doing very well, and doesn't have to protect its eastern flank (north-western Italy) as much as OTL. They may reach Bavaria before other forces cross other parts of the German frontier, unless Marshall and Brooke divert Devers supplies to the nothern attack.
 
My money's on the Western Allies.
1. They're doing well/better than OTL on the Overlord front.
2. This version of Dragooon is also doing very well, and doesn't have to protect its eastern flank (north-western Italy) as much as OTL. They may reach Bavaria before other forces cross other parts of the German frontier, unless Marshall and Brooke divert Devers supplies to the nothern attack.
Imagining Shermans, Pershings, Cromwells and Churchills in Berlin is a weird image, not gonna lie... but it is a image that could happen ITTL.
 
You do realise that this timeline is a massive set up for the punchline:
As a result of the post war recession US monetarists will cancel cruiser construction. ;)


BUT will there be a post war recession? What about built up demand for consumer goods? Will there be a GI Bill in the US? IMO the GI Bill is one of the greatest things ever done by Congress!!! Also VA loans for housing and a massive demand for family housing.
 
BUT will there be a post war recession? What about built up demand for consumer goods? Will there be a GI Bill in the US? IMO the GI Bill is one of the greatest things ever done by Congress!!! Also VA loans for housing and a massive demand for family housing.
Highly likely to have a significant recession as there will be massive displacement from war time industrial production to peace time consumer goods.
 
A significant effect of the Allies reaching Berlin is that its highly like if that happens, the Soviets will get kind of squat in occupation zones because the Western Allies will probably sweep over the eastern part of Germany.

Although, I wonder how that will affect the Order Neisse line and the German expulsions post war....
 
Story 2526
North of Marseilles, July 11, 1944

Sergeant Jarosheck was bored. More importantly, the rest of his squad was bored. Bored privates were dangerous to themselves and everyone else around them. He had a solution --- he dug into his combat pack, and went past the few pictures of a good memory of a leave in Tunis---- soon a deck of cards and a cribbage board were out. The BAR gunner pulled out a small book, and soon four men were playing a penny a point.

An hour and a half and almost two dollars later, the truck convoy carrying the first elements of the 28th Infantry Division started to head north.

By nightfall, the lead regiment was sixty two miles north of Marseilles. They were supposed to be another thirty miles, but the division had third priority on the roads up the Rhone Valley. Trucks supplying the US 7th Army, and the continued redeployment of the French 1st Army had forced the divisional convoys to the side of the road several times during the day

The squad sergeant made sure that all of his men were fed and that they had fresh socks, and well maintained rifles before nominating half the squad, including himself, to maintain watch as the platoon would sleep on the side of the road. He would sleep after midnight and wake before dawn. Two more days and then the regiment would be in the corps zone of its new parent formation, and then another day or two before they would be joining in the pursuit....
 
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My money's on the Western Allies.
1. They're doing well/better than OTL on the Overlord front.
2. This version of Dragooon is also doing very well, and doesn't have to protect its eastern flank (north-western Italy) as much as OTL. They may reach Bavaria before other forces cross other parts of the German frontier, unless Marshall and Brooke divert Devers supplies to the nothern attack.
Devers supplies are fairly inelastic as the supply flow constraint for the northern army groups of the Western Allies is not the amount of stuff that can be sent from the US or the UK, but the amount of stuff that can first be landed in France and then once landed, make it to the spearheads. The constraints are port capacity and soon to be truck capacity.
 

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Devers supplies are fairly inelastic as the supply flow constraint for the northern army groups of the Western Allies is not the amount of stuff that can be sent from the US or the UK, but the amount of stuff that can first be landed in France and then once landed, make it to the spearheads. The constraints are port capacity and soon to be truck capacity.

So, early days, whoever can get the most supplies ashore has the advantage - though that may change. Part of the truck capacity calculation includes numbers of working trucks, fuel, and state of the road network? (reducing the variables to a minimum)
 
I swore I saw an update where the Paris Uprising has started...
You did...

and you also saw an update about the US 3rd Army rolling down the Champs d'Elysee

 
Devers supplies are fairly inelastic as the supply flow constraint for the northern army groups of the Western Allies is not the amount of stuff that can be sent from the US or the UK, but the amount of stuff that can first be landed in France and then once landed, make it to the spearheads. The constraints are port capacity and soon to be truck capacity.
Well said, I came across these two volume of books from the US Army's Center of Military History, Logistical Support of the Armies Volume 1 and Volume 2 and it really paints a great picture into the logistical situation in the European Theater, especially involving D Day.

With that being said, in regards to the Red Ball Express, and the truck capacity, this section from the Volume 1 illustrate the issues that occured in OTL a bit later during the breakout past the Serein River in August and September which could butterfly its way in causing havoc down the road:
To muster this amount of transportation the Communications Zone had to resort to many expedients, among them the elimination of all unessential hauling and the temporary creation of provisional truck companies out of a variety of both service and combat organizations. At the very start forty companies were transferred from the Normandy Base Section to the MTB, and both base sections had to exercise the most stringent economy. The Communications Zone immediately called for surveys of all organic cargo-carrying vehicles of every unit assigned or attached to static or semi static units and ordered that all vehicles, with drivers, that could be spared for four or more hours per day be made available on a temporary basis to base section transportation officers for interdepot hauling and for port and beach clearance. In a further effort to meet requirements for line-of-communications hauling the Communications Zone reduced the activities at the beaches and ports by 50 percent and forbade the shipment of any supplies from the U.K. depots for which there was not an urgent need. To augment the available transportation, provisional truck companies were organized in the meantime from both service and combat units. In Normandy Base Section two engineer general service regiments were reorganized into seven truck companies each, and a chemical smoke generating battalion was reorganized as a truck battalion, its four companies being equipped with standard 2½- ton 6 x 6 trucks. 80 An additional ten companies were organized from antiaircraft units. Finally, three infantry divisions recently arrived on the Continent—the 26th, 95th, and 104th—were immobilized and their vehicles were used to form provisional truck companies. More than forty companies were organized in these divisions with the aid of 1,500 vehicles which the Communications Zone drew from stocks intended for issue to other units.

The Red Ball Express by no means accounted for all the hauling during the period of the pursuit, nor even for all the long-distance hauling. A considerable amount of transport was used in clearing ports, and the MTB devoted a sizable portion of its transport to hauling forward of the railheads. The armies also accounted for a substantial portion of long-distance hauling, although the extent and volume of it are not recorded. Like the Communications Zone, the armies took special measures to marshal all transportation resources and pressed every cargo-hauling vehicle into service. Both First and Third Armies made progressively greater use of both combat and service units that could be spared for cargo hauling. On 22 August General Bradley instructed both armies to leave their heavy artillery west of the Seine and to use the freed cargo trucks for supply movement, and the Communications Zone was asked not to move heavy-caliber ammunition beyond the Seine. Thereafter extensive use was made of all types of units. By the end of August the First Army was using engineer tactical transportation—three heavy ponton battalions, two light ponton battalions, and two dump truck companies—for supply movement. 84 Within another two weeks it was using a total of eighteen battalions of its artillery, with approximately 450 trucks of the 2½-ton type or larger and more than 200 lighter vehicles (¾-ton). By the end of September these converted field artillery battalions alone had hauled 17,200 tons of supplies. Meanwhile 340 trucks were taken from antiaircraft artillery units to form provisional truck companies, and units of other services also assigned their organic transport to hauling army supplies. In this way vehicles were drawn from evacuation hospitals, gas treatment battalions, mobile refrigerator companies, salvage and repair companies, engineer camouflage units, signal depot and repair companies, ordnance maintenance companies, and other types of units. Third Army resorted to similar expedients.

With that all said, if the D-Day Invasion plans in ITL are like OTL; the use of railroads of Northern France for long-haul logistical use is pretty much off of the table until Cherbourg is captured, and it remains unclear the state of the railroad infrastructure is in Northern France as well as the condition of the port facilities at Cherbourg.
 
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Story 2527
Chungking, China July 12, 1944

Another truck convoy from Burma had arrived that morning. There was little to note of the arrival. Two arrived every day. The laborers would soon be emptying the beds of the deuce and a half and the occasional five ton trucks. From there, they would move ammunition to ammunition dumps where other laborers would load the shells onto trains, trucks, and ox-carts. Other men would move oil drums to the airfields around the capitol while more would move medicine to the central dispensary and food to the grain silos.

More importantly, six days worth of trucks were being held in the capital instead of heading back to the Burmese railheads. Tonight, the 1st New Army would begin its movement to reinforce the armies in Hubei province. These divisions had been husbanded for years. They were well trained, well fed, well paid, and well-equipped troops. The Americans had spent lavishly to provide firepower that Chinese divisions expected to see from armies and army groups. The trucks would start moving the artillery columns with over two hundred guns and over a thousand shells per tube forward. The infantrymen would barge down the river and then march until the trucks were able them forward.
Another new army would assemble on the south bank of the Yangtze river and by September, the two groups of armies would be ready to isolate the Japanese 11th Corps in Wuhan.
 
Story 2528
Alfortville, France, July 13, 1944

Half a dozen trucks had cross the bridge. As another GM deuce and a half began to cross the bridge, the bridge disappeared in a massive explosion, throwing the truck into the river and drowning the driver.

Several miles away, and fifteen thousand feet above the river, the bomber crew turned away from a successful Fritz X attack.
 

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Alfortville, France, July 13, 1944

Half a dozen trucks had cross the bridge. As another GM deuce and a half began to cross the bridge, the bridge disappeared in a massive explosion, throwing the truck into the river and drowning the driver.

Several miles away, and fifteen thousand feet above the river, the bomber crew turned away from a successful Fritz X attack.
With the Meditteranean and Aegean largely out of effective range for the Luftwaffe bombers carrying the Fritz X, I suppose high value land targets would be next up on the list. Was that ever done in OTL?
 
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