Kenya like Rhodesia

Is it possible with a post-1945 PoD to get Kenya to be like Rhodesia with a White minority ruling over the Black majority post-independence for at least a decade?
 
I think 1945 is a little late for a POD. IIRC, and I may be misremembering, Kenya had about half the European population of Rhodesia at the end of the War and while that number grew, it was still pretty low by time of independence.

I would think you would need to introduce more Whites prior to the War, to give a higher base. This is largely what Mac did, his POD was he moved the key colonial official that helped develop Rhodesia to Kenya and this fuelled a much earlier, interwar migration.
 
As others have said Mac's Invasion of Kenya was a great study of this, but in OTL the demographics were even more unfavourable than Rhodesia. However boosting them higher would be difficult as Rhodesia benefited from a lot of immigration from South Africa as well as Britain whereas Kenya was almost entirely dependent on Europe for it's white's, though there were a few South Africans who came north.
 
Assuming Rhodesia and Kenya are equal for a second and the white settlers in Kenya do try this- they've other disadvantages Rhodesia didn't have which make the whole idea a lot more dangerous.
They're coastal, so commonwealth navies can get at them, and they don't have friendly, racist South Africa next door as a potential supporter. They're all alone, surrounded by native dominated African nations. Ethiopia has some minor claims on northern Kenya as things stand I believe, should they be given an excuse then they might decide to pop in for a spot of war.
Boosting the number of settlers in Kenya is only half the battle here.
 
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Assuming Rhodesia and Kenya are equal for a second and the white settlers in Kenya do try this- they've other disadvantages Rhodesia didn't have which make the whole idea a lot more dangerous.
They're coastal, so commonwealth navies can get at them, and they don't have friendly, racist South Africa next door as a potential supporter. They're all alone, surrounded by native dominated African nations. Ethiopia has some small minor on northern Kenya as things stand I believe, should they be given an excuse then they might decide to pop in for a spot of war.
Boosting the number of settlers in Kenya is only half the battle here.

Indeed. Mac's TL was sort of getting to that point I think
 
As others have said Mac's Invasion of Kenya was a great study of this, but in OTL the demographics were even more unfavourable than Rhodesia. However boosting them higher would be difficult as Rhodesia benefited from a lot of immigration from South Africa as well as Britain whereas Kenya was almost entirely dependent on Europe for it's white's, though there were a few South Africans who came north.

I don't think so. From what I have read Rhodesia and South African both had policies that limited European immigration to the "right kind" of people. For example, the Rhodesians had a policy that set a minimum capital level needed to settle there. They turned down large numbers of homeless Germans after WW1 and homeless Czechs the after Munich agreement out of the fear of losing their "british-ness". The South Africa also limited European immigration after the Nationalist Party took over in 1948 out of fear out reducing Africanner influence.

If a Kenya wanted more Europeans all they had to do was allow a more open with who they let in, just think all those German Jews that wanted a place to go in the 1930's.

IMO the African nations would have been better off without the ethnic cleansing they all did in the 1960's and 1970's. From what I read the urban areas in Angola were 50 to 60% European until the black majority took over. In less than a year of majority rule there were almost no ethnic Europeans in the nation.
 
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Oh I agree restricting immigration to rich British subjects was a very dumb idea, but if you look at Rhodesia a lot of the whites were British South Africans or Brits who had migrated to South Africa and then moved north. In contrast in Kenya it was almost all straight Britain>Kenya.
 
I don't think so. From what I have read Rhodesia and South African both had policies that limited European immigration to the "right kind" of people. For example, the Rhodesians had a policy that set a minimum capital level needed to settle there. They turned down large numbers of homeless Germans after WW1 and homeless Czechs the after Munich agreement out of the fear of losing their "british-ness". The South Africa also limited European immigration after the Nationalist Party took over in 1948 out of fear out reducing Africanner influence.

If a Kenya wanted more Europeans all they had to do was allow a more open with who they let in, just think all those German Jews that wanted a place to go in the 1930's.

IMO the African nations would have been better off without the ethnic cleansing they all did in the 1960's and 1970's. From what I read the urban areas in Angola were 50 to 60% European until the black majority took over. In less than a year of majority rule there were almost no ethnic Europeans in the nation.

Right, but sudden decolonisation like in Angola is rarely organised or rational. Even where it is slightly more planned or less desperate we still ended up with the Asian Expulsions in East Africa.
 
I don't think so. From what I have read Rhodesia and South African both had policies that limited European immigration to the "right kind" of people. For example, the Rhodesians had a policy that set a minimum capital level needed to settle there. They turned down large numbers of homeless Germans after WW1 and homeless Czechs the after Munich agreement out of the fear of losing their "british-ness". The South Africa also limited European immigration after the Nationalist Party took over in 1948 out of fear out reducing Africanner influence.

If a Kenya wanted more Europeans all they had to do was allow a more open with who they let in, just think all those German Jews that wanted a place to go in the 1930's.

IMO the African nations would have been better off without the ethnic cleansing they all did in the 1960's and 1970's. From what I read the urban areas in Angola were 50 to 60% European until the black majority took over. In less than a year of majority rule there were almost no ethnic Europeans in the nation.

I think you've nailed the issue on the head right here. A European-ized Kenya is possible but you're going to need one hell of a leader and some events to go his way in order to make that happen. If Kenya can take in all these European refugees the odds will still be against them, but not nearly as much.
 
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