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Kentucky Fried Politics: A Colonel Sanders Timeline
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Peter Jackson – Hmm, Jackson was always interested in filming, so he’d still be ITTL, and he was drawn the Tolkien after seeing the 1978 Lord of the Rings film; perhaps Bakshi is inspired by the painted background techniques in Disney’s the Snow Queen (1974) to use a similar effect for some rotoscoping scenes, and the film does slightly better at the box office than it did in OTL, and a sequel was greenlit, albeit under a limited budget and an even more limited timeframe; Bakshi gives it his all and his exhausted by the process, but the film gets made; while it completes the story, it is less successful at the box office and fans initially are disappointed by how much material he had to omit to keep it at a reasonable length (even after increasing the pace that everything happens, with some major lengthy scenes in the book being only a minute or two long in the film in order to keep it under 140 minutes. Jackson is inspired by both films as in his youth. He co-writes one of the better Elm Street sequels near the of his splatter phase of the 1980s, allowing his career to take off in the 1990s; the Lord of the Rings Trilogy comes out slightly earlier (2000, 2001, 2002) but its cast is probably different than IOTL here and there; The Hobbit (one movie) is made in 2008; the 2010s saw Jackson work on numerous major film projects and franchises, including a bunch of King Kong movies (he loved the original when he was a kid, so it makes sense that he’d want to be involved in bringing him back to pop culture prominence), but I’m not sure how they differ specifically from the OTL films.
Christopher Lee – pretty much the same as OTL; he gets to play more “good guy” roles, but admits he has more fun playing villainous roles; still recording various operatic and heavy metal musical pieces, still gets knighted at some point; passes away in 2019 at the age of 97.
John Dean – worked as the law firm Welch & Morgan from 1965 to 1967, leaving after acquiring a TV station broadcast license, which he tried to acquire in OTL but apparently failed; here, he signs on to the parent company The Overmyer Network and by the end of the 1970s is overseeing TON broadcasting management duties for a majority of the Eastern Seaboard; eventually worked his way up to the Board of Directors by 1982 and became Chairman of the Board and COO in 1985; he retired in 1995 at age 65; but in the 2010s briefly worked as a senior advisor for Turner-Kennedy Broadcasting. During his time at TON, he solved several financial problems for the networked, promoted diversification, and worked to acquire obscure and local programming personalities and show ideas that had the potential to “go national.” So, yeah, he’s not exactly a household name ITTL.
Wilma Rudolph – still an Olympic Gold medalist a role model for young black women; due to the US getting universal healthcare in 1990, she live a bit longer, passing away from brain and throat cancer at the age of 60, two weeks after seeing Jesse Jackson get elected President.
OJ Simpson – I already covered this more than once, in comment replies and within the chapters; he was found murdered outside his wife’s home in 1995
Ralph Reed – was the RNC Chair (R-GA) from 2007 to 2011 and the US Ambassador to Brazil from 2013 to 2021; mentioned in Chapter 109, where he attends a function where VP Brown makes one of his most controversial “Harleyisms”
Conway Twitty – responds to Elvis improving his health by doing so himself, leading him avoiding the abdominal aortic aneurysm that killed him in 1993; makes some more albums in that decade, then enters semi-retirement as his prior unhealthy years finally catch up with him and he passes away in late 2013 at the age of 80, not that many years after becoming well-known among younger people via lafpics about him going furvid ontech in the late 2000s decade.
Pat Robertson – briefly mentioned in Chapters 63, 64, 67, 73 and 117; was heavily involved in the Christian Broadcasting Network and collaborated with fellow members of the Religious Right on numerous “pro-family” endeavors; broke with former President Sanders in 1979; strongly supported and defended Denton throughout the 1980s; worked on the 1988 Billy McCormack campaign and endorsed the 1992 Estus Pirkle campaign but never ran for President himself; operated many Christian organizations and was a prominent donor and “networker” during the 1990s and 2000s; less active today due to old age
Antony Blinken – worked in various “domestic security” positions under Presidents Iacocca and Dinger, but after failing to get promoted under President Jackson, moved to New York to work in publishing; after twelve years as a “foreign policy analyst” for the Times, he decided against re-entering politics with the new Grammer administration and instead continued to manage a highly lucrative publishing house, and work for a private equity firm as well.
Colin Cowherd – probably still becomes a radio and sports media personality like IOTL
Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker – they still worked for CBN, still co-founded the PTL Club in 1974, and still opened Heritage USA in 1978, those it almost closed in the first year due to the Economic “Crash” of 1978; Tammy feuds with two-term Congressperson Anita Bryant over “compassion for the BLUTAGO community”; while Jessica Hahn isn’t the victim, Bakker and Fletcher still become embroiled in a scandal when a woman steps forward in late 1985 and accuses them of raping her in December 1980; this victim gives more convincing testimony in the subsequent trial; Tammy divorces Bakker over the scandal, and they sell the Christian theme park to none other than Elvis Presley, who, unfortunately, had no idea how to run a theme park; with the IRS deciding to revoke the park’s tax exemption status in 1989, and Hurricane Hugo damaging parts of it in September 1989, Elvis hands over the park to evangelist Morris Cerullo and his team of lawyers, who salvage enough from a separate and successful legal fight concerning insurance coverage for the hurricane damage to pull the park out of the red; the park stays in operation until a string a lawsuits over people being injured in the park due to its poor safety features causes it to hemorrhage money; quarantines in 2002 lower visitor rates further, and the park is closed in late 2002; efforts to re-open it in 2004 and 2005 fail, and an effort by Tamy to make a new park ends with her dying in 2007 like IOTL; meanwhile, Jim Bakker was in jail for accounting fraud and sexual pestering from 1989 to 2001, but made a new career for himself on radio by appealing to religious populists such as the Wide-Awakes of the late 1990s, the Boulderites of the 2000s and 2010s. Fletcher “came out of the cocoon”/unmasked himself (admitted he was BLUTAGO) in 2005 but died from liver problems in 2015.
Also, interestingly, former President Colonel Sanders may appear on that PTL program like he did in 1979 in OTL!:
Peter Popoff – very similar to OTL, being repeatedly exposed and revealed to be a fraud only for him to make a comeback a few years later; “he’s more slippery than the snake oil he sells!”
Bruce Lee – passed away in 1985 at the age of 45 from a head injury he received while filming a movie; the injury was ruled decades later to have been worsened by heat stroke, as his body would overheat to unnatural levels due to the fact that he had had the sweat glands underneath his arms removed in 1972 because he believed underarm sweat was not photogenic. His son, Brandon Lee, died in 2010, also at the age of 45, in a freak car collision.
David Koresh – mentioned in Chapter 57 (by his birth name) as dying in a confrontation with police, and a rival cult leader from OTL:
Roden was later acquitted on a technicality and returned to running a cult until his death from a heart attack in early 1996 at the age of 57, just days after giving a fiery speech claiming the KW2 would be “humanity’s final war” and that his followers must prepare for the endtimes; many took his death as a sign/proof of his claims, but the cult, by then a group of only 50 people, was divided on how to proceed; 12 committed suicide, 20 signed up to fight in the military only for all but five of them to fail to pass basic training (and those five were court-martialed for attempting to steal army weapons and hijack a plane to travel to The Former North to “keep the war going” and bring about the endtimes after learning that the war was already over before they got to see actual combat), 11 straight-up left the cult (with 1 being killed soon after by a “still-believer”), and the remaining 8 fortified Mount Carmel Center and got into a shootout with local law enforcement that lasted for two hours, ending when their fortified main building caught fire and collapsed, killing 6 of the remaining diehards; the final 2 were put on trial for murdering the “defector” and injuring four cops in the shootout; both ultimately died in prison during the 2010s.
I'm not sure; what do you think?
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The issue for me, trying to recall everyone you've covered, sorry if I mention people you have already.
Tara Strong.
Jennifer Hale.
Katie Leigh. Richard Epcar.
Tara Strong.
Jennifer Hale.
Katie Leigh. Richard Epcar.
Can you give me a complete list of all video game consoles ITTL (both home and handheld, including add-ons) starting at the first generation and ending at the ninth generation, with release dates for every console, gap80?
Not a clue - I don't play any of those things! (sorry)
I mentioned streaming in Chapter 115 and I covered the blind user technology in Chapter 73
I don't know; they probably all still become voice actors, but are maybe more celebrated or better known in pop culture?
The Symbionese Liberation Army wasn’t formed ITTL because (as mentioned in the notes/sources section of Chapter 39) Donald DeFreeze failed to escape from prison in March 1973. Patricia Hearst Weed married her fiancé Steven Weed in 1975 and graduated from Berkeley in 1976 with a degree in art history. She found work in Hollywood helping to design sets for “period” pieces and working at prominent art museums. However, she spent most of her time collaborating on multiple artistic preservation projects with various relevant organizations. She and Steven had three children – Toby Heart Weed (1977), Hebert Hearst Weed (1979), and Clarice Heart Weed (1982). Her work in Hollywood led to her appearing in small roles in some films she worked on, but never made an actual career out of acting, so never became a household name. Her most prominent role was playing one of her own ancestors in a 2009 neo-noir/biopic on the mysterious 1924 death of actor Thomas H. Ince. She officially retired in 2019 at the age of 65, and now spends most of her time on philanthropic pursuits.
I already answered this just the other day, #70 on the list.
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I already listed some consoles in the TL. Please follow the instructions above to find them.
Those can be found in "Index 6."
Whoops, sorry about that, @Bbone91. That's probably the result of me moving that post to merge it with this post, which was kind of shortsighted on my part. Again, sorry for that.
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Hey, @gap80! I barely had the energy to read a few of the chapter of TTL, since they are so large and so well-written, that I simply could not assimilate the entire information. However, I would try my best to read it in it's entirety as soon as possible, but from the chapters I managed to read as well as from the number of full chapters, years spent researching and writing and the feedback received by your constant readers, I must say that this is one of the best written, documented, detailed and narrated TLs on this site and you are a role-model for an alternate history writer.
Thank you so much for the compliment! I truly appreciate it!
It's at the bottom of "Index 1: World Leaders" (it's threadmarked)
Here are more suggestions I'm thinking of:
Ray Combs
Richard Dawson
Robert Reed
Arthur
Mayim Bialik
Stephanie Meyer
Fifty Shades of Grey
Anderson Cooper
Bill & Ted
Burger King's "Where's Herb?" campaign
My Mother the Car
The Brady Bunch Variety Hour
The GoAnimate community (although the "Misbehaves At..." videos may be a little different due to a lack of South Park IITL, and by extension, the "HUMANCENTiPAD" episode the videos are based on)
McLean Stevenson
Gene Rayburn
Will Ferrell
Norm Macdonald
Burt Reynolds
Groucho Marx
Jay Leno
Mike Matei, Brendan Castner (a.k.a. Bootsy) and Kyle Justin (former members of Cinemassacre)
Screenwave Media, Justin, Tony, and Kieran (James Rolfe's current team)
Malcolm Ray and Tamara Chambers (both of Channel Awesome; although they were born decades after the POD)
Circuit City
Ray Combs
Richard Dawson
Robert Reed
Arthur
Mayim Bialik
Stephanie Meyer
Fifty Shades of Grey
Anderson Cooper
Bill & Ted
Burger King's "Where's Herb?" campaign
My Mother the Car
The Brady Bunch Variety Hour
The GoAnimate community (although the "Misbehaves At..." videos may be a little different due to a lack of South Park IITL, and by extension, the "HUMANCENTiPAD" episode the videos are based on)
McLean Stevenson
Gene Rayburn
Will Ferrell
Norm Macdonald
Burt Reynolds
Groucho Marx
Jay Leno
Mike Matei, Brendan Castner (a.k.a. Bootsy) and Kyle Justin (former members of Cinemassacre)
Screenwave Media, Justin, Tony, and Kieran (James Rolfe's current team)
Malcolm Ray and Tamara Chambers (both of Channel Awesome; although they were born decades after the POD)
Circuit City
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1 Ray Combs – got his start in the 1980s like IOTL, but after CBS gives someone else a seven-year contract to host Family Feud, he shifts from TV to films, first becoming a character actor before landing both comic relief and romantic drama roles, all the while working on his stand-up comedy; attempts to open a comedy club repeatedly fail before any money can even be put down for them, and he is not in any car accident in July 1994; not getting the TV hosting gig upsets him until learning to was a blessing in disguise, as the person who did get to host Family Feud (whoever it is – Jimmy Cefalo?) later fails to find work and claims in an infamous 1997 interview that hosting game shows “demeans” you; meanwhile, Combs hosted his own show from 1997, until its cancellation in 1998 led to him having either a mental breakdown or a nervous breakdown in a highly publicized public incident; he received mental health counseling and therapy for bipolar disorder, remarried in 2009, and ultimately bounced back in the year 2010s with an ontech podcast and later reality TV show; currently semi-retired and works with other celebrities with past mental health issues such as Kurt Cobain to promote mental wellness programs.
2 Richard Dawson – hosted Family Feud from 1976 to 1988 and again from 1995 to 1999, when continued ratings issues led to him being fired; after hosting “TV’s Worst,” a show highlighting and joking about “the worst things on TV,” from 2000 until its cancellation in 2002, he retired, and passed away in 2017.
3 Robert Reed – he does not contract the ISF (Immunity System Failure) Virus, but he still develops colon cancer; he passes away in 1995 at the age of 62
4 Mayim Bialik – started out as a child actress, but took a break in the late 1990s to focus on medical school; returning to part-time acting in the early 2000s, she became a neuroscientist in 2007 but began spending more time acting by 2011; currently (2021) splits her time between film and TV projects and her “second job” as a UCLA medical professor
5 Anderson Cooper – already mentioned several times throughout the TL; he’s a news anchor/reporter like in OTL
6 Bill & Ted – the scene showing them “befriending a caveman in the prehistorical age as to help him invent fire so that they could light up a joint” is kept in the final script; after the writers learn about Dr. Who, they replace the phonebooth with a dumpster, which Rufus swears only contains “fake gross stuff” in it; a cartoon TV series – a straightforward and somewhat educational (kinda) “midquel” series showing how it was more difficult to track down historical figures than suggested in the film – lasts from 1990 to 1994; a sequel is made in 1997 (during Keanu’s time playing Wolverine, c. 1995 to 2012, as mentioned in a 1990s chapter), and a second sequel comes out in 2009 (it’s Carlin’s final film role)
7 Burger King's "Where's Herb?" campaign – As mentioned in Index 5, Burger King had financial difficulties in the 1970s and 1990s, but not in the 1980s, as under CEO Norman E. Brinker, the chain launched attack ads on rivals to gain attention, similar to Jack-In-The-Box in the late 1990s/early 2000s decade (both in OTL and in TTL); however, under CEO Jerry W. Levin, the strength of the company’s brand fluctuated as they just threw everything at the wall and went with whatever stuck; maybe something as convoluted/confusing as “Where’s Herb?” is one of those things from the 1990s that just didn’t “stick.”
8 My Mother the Car – lasts for one season; it gets cancelled after 21 episodes, and a remaining 9 are aired in a “burning off” period
9 The Brady Bunch Variety Hour – if it still gets made (either as a one-time special or as a mini-series of sorts) in the mid-to-late 1970s, maybe Eve Plumb shows up the reprise the role of Jan, and actress Geri Reischl is best known for being in something else instead
10 The GoAnimate community (although the "Misbehaves At..." videos may be a little different due to a lack of South Park IITL, and by extension, the "HUMANCENTiPAD" episode the videos are based on) – an animated video creation platform like this probably shows up several years earlier, c. 2002 instead of 2007; making humorous videos on the premise of kids misbehaving sounds like something that would still happen at some point
11 McLean Stevenson – he and Roger Bowen still appeared on M*A*S*H and had fairly successful acting careers; Stevenson passed away from the long-term effects of bladder cancer in 2009 at the age of 82, and Bowen died from the same kind of cancer the next day later at the day of 77
12 Gene Rayburn – pretty much the same as OTL, I guess
13 Groucho Marx – same as OTL (because how would the career of a comedian most famous in the 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s be significantly impacted by a 1932 POD that doesn’t really start changing things at the national level until the late 1950s/early 1960s?)
14 Jay Leno – hosted The Late Show (on TON) from 1993 to 2014, as described here: https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...sanders-timeline.451582/page-60#post-21974145
15 Mike Matei – probably a prominent OurVider/technetter ITTL
16 Brendan Castner (a.k.a. Bootsy) – given he and Matei went to grade school together in the 1980s, maybe he’s a technetter, too, though a I can’t say for certain how prominent or successful each of them are
17 Kyle Justin (former member of Cinemassacre) – independent singer-songwriter, not that well-known but still better-known ITTL than IOTL
18 Screenwave Media – no idea
19 Justin, Tony, and Kieran (James Rolfe's current team) – I don’t know; with Rolfe having a different and more prosperous career ITTL (as mentioned in one of the chapters), maybe they never go anywhere? I’m really not sure
20 Arthur (1981 film) – still one of the highest-grossing films of 1981; maybe the guy who made it doesn’t die from a heart attack at the age of 44 and so if they still make a sequel (or two?) to it, he’s involved, at it performs much better among critics and audiences and at the box office
21 Arthur (cartoon show) – if the first children’s book, Arthur’s Nose, still come out in 1976 like in OTL, then maybe an education series does still get made at some point
22 Stephanie Meyer – already mentioned here: https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...sanders-timeline.451582/page-66#post-22137516
23 Fifty Shades of Gray – given the fact that E. L. James got into writing because of Stephanie Meyer’s Twilight, Meyer’s career being different here (as suggested in the link above) would make James’ career different, too, and thus very likely butterfly away that series; however, if there’s a market for those kind of books, some other author, maybe someone who is not famous IOTL, or does not even exist IOTL, will fill in the void at some point
24 Malcolm Ray – assuming his 1990 birth survives the butterflies, he most likely still goes into acting and voice acting
25 Tamara Chambers – still an actress, but is more prominent/well-known than in OTL
26 Circuit City – struggled to adapt to changing market trends and finally went belly-up during the 2013 recession, replaced by Wayfair and a RadioShack that avoided the mistakes of thru irks of Circuit City and Blockbuster Home Entertainment Emporium (which is still around but mostly sells merchandise similar to FYE as they had to change once renting physical copies of movies stopped being a thing); Tiger Direct is a major electronics retail company; CompUSA filed for Chapter 11 during the 2013 recession; the (fictional) company TechTime was founded in the late 1990s and is still going strong, with the potential of giving RadioShack a run for its money real soon.
27 Will Ferrell – still became an actor and comedian.
28 Norm MacDonald – still became a comedian and actor, but was a bit more successful here I guess.
29 Burt Reynolds – was an actor like in OTL (1936-2020), often being in movies alongside his RL friend Dom DeLuise (1933-2017).
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WatchMojo recently had a video about defunct famous restaurants and it was interesting to see which ones I knew because of this timeline. Was very tempted to leave a Kentucky Fried Politics comment