Keep Five Points as an existing neighbourhood

The movie Gangs Of New York (and the novel I'm 'writing' now) are both set in the Five Points neighbourhood in Manhattan, famous as a disease-ridden slum filled with organised crime. It was so bad there that the place was considered the world's worst slum (definitely worse than The Rocks, the equivalent area here in Sydney) and eventually cleared. Now it no longer exists.

Is there a POD which could possibility lead to Five Points still existing as a NY neighbourhood (although probably suffering gentrification like other similar places) to the 2st century? What could this?
 
"Suffering gentrification"? It's just terrible when decaying, crime ridden shitholes are improved and restored to something semi-decent that people actually want to live in rather than being forced there for a lack of a better option. The Rocks would be so much nicer if it was still full of prostitutes, criminals and the detritus of society. If it the buildings were falling apart and the murder rate was sky high. Damn those evil gentrifiers!

As to Five Points is very easy to imagine the name and some of the architecture might survive though obviously the particular ethnic and cultural mix you see in Gangs of New York has a expiration date as new immigrants move up the social scale and economic growth alleviates poverty.
 
"Suffering gentrification"? It's just terrible when decaying, crime ridden shitholes are improved and restored to something semi-decent that people actually want to live in rather than being forced there for a lack of a better option. The Rocks would be so much nicer if it was still full of prostitutes, criminals and the detritus of society. If it the buildings were falling apart and the murder rate was sky high. Damn those evil gentrifiers!

As to Five Points is very easy to imagine the name and some of the architecture might survive though obviously the particular ethnic and cultural mix you see in Gangs of New York has a expiration date as new immigrants move up the social scale and economic growth alleviates poverty.

You sure have a point. But of course, in those days, it ws not done to help the poors really. The police and.. private thugs would force the miserous, 'sinners' etc away, by force if needed. All in the name of progress, 'social hygiene', and possible nice places to rebuilt. There is a dark side by example to what that 'Baron' Hoffman done to Paris, to name a famous and large case. DOUBLY as 'dirty foreigners' are in, in the days of Nativism and all...

Even nowaday, gentryficiation is a 'nicer' form of it at times, as we see it in Montreal and Quebec City by example. Pushing away discretely the... undesirable. It's NEVER really in the interests of the poors, they are not cared for much and tend to get the shaft.
 
Obviously gentrification doesn't solve all of societies problems. It doesn't cure drug addiction or deprive the worlds second oldest profession of customers. But cleaning out concentrations of trouble is a good thing and not something that should be attacked. I've been to The Rocks in Sydney and visited the Museum and was fascinating but I don't think anyone, including the former residents of The Rocks would want to swap the modern gentrified inner city area jammed with art galleries and cafe's for what was there 100 years ago.
 
The movie Gangs Of New York (and the novel I'm 'writing' now) are both set in the Five Points neighbourhood in Manhattan, famous as a disease-ridden slum filled with organised crime. It was so bad there that the place was considered the world's worst slum (definitely worse than The Rocks, the equivalent area here in Sydney) and eventually cleared. Now it no longer exists.

Is there a POD which could possibility lead to Five Points still existing as a NY neighbourhood (although probably suffering gentrification like other similar places) to the 2st century? What could this?

Things don't remain the same in NY.

You could prevent some urban development that would have kept the actual streets in place and, thus, preserve the name (no name if there is not a five point intersection, BTW).

But the neighborhood character would be VASTLY different.

Where my family came to NY there were poor Jews and Germans living in tenaments, then Italians moved in, then Blacks, then hispanics, then artists and later poor students, then the wealthy ... all within a century.
 

katchen

Banned
In a way, New York has preserved Five Points. That's where the Tombs House of Detention is located.:p
 
"Suffering gentrification"? It's just terrible when decaying, crime ridden shitholes are improved and restored to something semi-decent that people actually want to live in rather than being forced there for a lack of a better option. The Rocks would be so much nicer if it was still full of prostitutes, criminals and the detritus of society. If it the buildings were falling apart and the murder rate was sky high. Damn those evil gentrifiers!

I'm glad you feel confident in your class war ideology. Allow me to quote a different set of class war ideology from the 1980s regarding gentrification, "Fuck off yuppie scum." The only thing truly offensive in your post, is your suggestion that your morality is universal and natural, rather than a morality.

yours,
Sam R.
 
You sure have a point. But of course, in those days, it ws not done to help the poors really. The police and.. private thugs would force the miserous, 'sinners' etc away, by force if needed. All in the name of progress, 'social hygiene', and possible nice places to rebuilt. There is a dark side by example to what that 'Baron' Hoffman done to Paris, to name a famous and large case. DOUBLY as 'dirty foreigners' are in, in the days of Nativism and all...

Even nowaday, gentryficiation is a 'nicer' form of it at times, as we see it in Montreal and Quebec City by example. Pushing away discretely the... undesirable. It's NEVER really in the interests of the poors, they are not cared for much and tend to get the shaft.

Exactly what I was saying. Anyhow, 'bad' neighbourhoods in the West this century are very different to 'bad' neighbourhoods anyplace else in the world in this century.
 
I'm glad you feel confident in your class war ideology. Allow me to quote a different set of class war ideology from the 1980s regarding gentrification, "Fuck off yuppie scum." The only thing truly offensive in your post, is your suggestion that your morality is universal and natural, rather than a morality.

yours,
Sam R.

Class war ideology? What the hell, how is wanting to take poor people out of crime ridden shitholes class war. It's called helping people. Now if the result of a policy is to just move the problem like British post war slum clearance which took people from violent crime ridden slums and dumped them into violent crime ridden high rise estates then I'm not going to defend it. But considering Sydney has no area as shitty and horrible as The Rocks used to be I feel safe in regarding it as a success story.
As to your second point yes Morality in the broad sense is culture specific. However I can't think of a single culture in human history where murder, violent crime* etc. are anything other than a bad thing nor a single developed culture where lawless areas are regarded as anything other than a very bad thing.


*i.e. against the existing rules of society
 
Class war ideology? What the hell, how is wanting to take poor people out of crime ridden shitholes class war. It's called helping people. Now if the result of a policy is to just move the problem like British post war slum clearance which took people from violent crime ridden slums and dumped them into violent crime ridden high rise estates then I'm not going to defend it. But considering Sydney has no area as shitty and horrible as The Rocks used to be I feel safe in regarding it as a success story.
As to your second point yes Morality in the broad sense is culture specific. However I can't think of a single culture in human history where murder, violent crime* etc. are anything other than a bad thing nor a single developed culture where lawless areas are regarded as anything other than a very bad thing.


*i.e. against the existing rules of society

Gentrification, though, has a negative side as well as a positive side. Usually, once an area gets gentrified, the original residents move out because they can no longer keep up with the rent or mortgage prices.
Then the areas they move out to get a bad reputation too.
 
Class war ideology?

Yes, and a pretty obvious one too.

What the hell, how is wanting to take poor people out of crime ridden shitholes class war. It's called helping people.

It is called charity, and it has been roundly criticised as a method of class war and social control for over 250 years. Any of the discussions of the negative aspects of "Social Welfare" "Social Work" or the "moral regulation" of the "deserving poor" ought to help you here. For a particularly pointed example of a working class organisation opposing this, see Solidarity (UK)'s manifesto _As we see it / As we don't see it_ (libcom.org) or Andy Anderson's invective declaration _The Enemy is Middle Class_. It's called helping yourself. You start noticing it in fine detail when you read Orwell attacking the housing that Engels praised; both as slums and slums clearance.

Now if the result of a policy is to just move the problem like British post war slum clearance which took people from violent crime ridden slums and dumped them into violent crime ridden high rise estates then I'm not going to defend it. But considering Sydney has no area as shitty and horrible as The Rocks used to be I feel safe in regarding it as a success story.

Currently the 2000 post code household income is $200 over median, and apart from the few pockets of public housing I'm aware of, I'm pretty sure that "slum clearance" has meant what it has meant everywhere else: private accumulation, ie enclosure, of social spaces developed by workers themselves. This isn't about nice people feeling nice by relocating slums from nice places. This is about power. The success story of "The Rocks" was the slummification of Chippendale/Darlington in exactly the same era. And the drabbled tailed whores were moved on into other Slums in Surry Hills, which stood until the 1930s. Both of which were recreated again and again. This isn't a success story, unless you're a seller of carpets and brooms and hire the labour power of carpet-under-sweepers. Or if you're M* or C* or another housing company, willing to put up cramped shoddy dog boxes on the previous site of even more cramped shoddy cages to sell at the going rate of standard housing, instead of the slum rate.

As to your second point yes Morality in the broad sense is culture specific. However I can't think of a single culture in human history where murder, violent crime* etc. are anything other than a bad thing nor a single developed culture where lawless areas are regarded as anything other than a very bad thing.

Whose law? Whose society? And who stood trial for the workplace deaths inflicted 400m to the left of The Rocks and 400m to the right of The Rocks?
 
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katchen

Banned
All that's happened in Sydney to my knowledge is that the poor have been gentrified out of the inner city (with the possible exception of suburbs like Sydenham and Marrickville that are under the flight path for Kingsford Smith Airport) to outer suburbs such as Blacktown and Mt. Druitt and Rooty Hill. Which is also what happened in London and Paris. Out of sight of the wealthy. Out of mind.
 
It is called charity, and it has been roundly criticised as a method of class war and social control for over 250 years. Any of the discussions of the negative aspects of "Social Welfare" "Social Work" or the "moral regulation" of the "deserving poor" ought to help you here. For a particularly pointed example of a working class organisation opposing this, see Solidarity (UK)'s manifesto _As we see it / As we don't see it_ (libcom.org) or Andy Anderson's invective declaration _The Enemy is Middle Class_. It's called helping yourself. You start noticing it in fine detail when you read Orwell attacking the housing that Engels praised; both as slums and slums clearance.

I'm so sorry, I didn't appreciate your world view. I'm from this place called the 99% of decent human beings were helping someone is regarded as a good thing. Not leaving them to die of TB in a slum because they didn't pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Currently the 2000 post code household income is $200 over median, and apart from the few pockets of public housing I'm aware of, I'm pretty sure that "slum clearance" has meant what it has meant everywhere else: private accumulation, ie enclosure, of social spaces developed by workers themselves. This isn't about nice people feeling nice by relocating slums from nice places. This is about power. The success story of "The Rocks" was the slummification of Chippendale/Darlington in exactly the same era. And the drabbled tailed whores were moved on into other Slums in Surry Hills, which stood until the 1930s. Both of which were recreated again and again. This isn't a success story, unless you're a seller of carpets and brooms and hire the labour power of carpet-under-sweepers. Or if your M* or C* or another housing company, willing to put up cramped shoddy dog boxes on the previous site of even more cramped shoddy cages to sell at the going rate of standard housing, instead of the slum rate.

You mean over the past 100 years some areas have gone upmarket while some more outlying areas have gone through the transition of rural-exurban large blocks-new development-working class area. Shock Horror. I stayed for a few nights on a sofa at a mates uni share house in Surry Hills and while it wasn't exactly Mayfair it was hardly a slum. Struck me as a pretty standard university area with lots of relatively cheap and nasty share houses for students but with a good nightlife and generally a pretty nice place to live if you're a 23 year old post-grad student.

Whose law? Whose society? And who stood trial for the workplace deaths inflicted 400m to the left of The Rocks and 400m to the right of The Rocks?

You mean on docks I'm guessing? Well first of all Australia like every developed country has quite stringent workplace safety laws nowadays and they are enforced reasonably well. And in the past they didn't such strict laws and weren't terribly well enforced. Which is bad. But the argument that because the law doesn't prevent every bad from happening and doesn't punish every guilty individual is frankly insane.

Gentrification, though, has a negative side as well as a positive side. Usually, once an area gets gentrified, the original residents move out because they can no longer keep up with the rent or mortgage prices.
Then the areas they move out to get a bad reputation too.

Speaking as someone who lives in a rapidly gentrifying area of London and speaking as a mid 20's university educated person, i.e. a textbook gentrifier the original inhabitants moving out is very rarely forced. I bought my tiny one bed studio flat off a black couple with a small child who seemed delighted that thanks to rising house prices they could sell their small flat and move into somewhere three times size and with a back garden. I meanwhile was delighted to have got my foot on the property ladder, to have a flat close to work and speaking as a single male thanks to being 400 square foot easy to clean. Everybody wins.
 
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I'm so sorry, I didn't appreciate your world view. I'm from this place called the 99% of decent human beings were helping someone is regarded as a good thing. Not leaving them to die of TB in a slum because they didn't pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Precisely not the point being made. Take your "deserving poor" narrative elsewhere. The Rocks were cleared for two purposes: preventing generalised plague, and to release fresh land for landlords. And the slums they were inserted into (as below) suffered the same plagues, murders, involuntary prostitution and substance abuse issues. There was no decency in The Rocks clearance. You seem to be from the place, whether by employment or moral ideology, that Andy Anderson specifically criticises: those directly responsible for the day to day administration of capitalism and its subordination and suborning of workers.

You mean over the past 100 years some areas have gone upmarket while some more outlying areas have gone through the transition of rural-exurban large blocks-new development-working class area. Shock Horror.

I stayed for a few nights on a sofa at a mates uni share house in Surry Hills and while it wasn't exactly Mayfair it was hardly a slum.

That's nice. This isn't 1930. Holy hell, it is like the social context of housing is more important than the actual physical layout in most instances. Oh my god, it is like you've confirmed Engel's primary thesis on Manchester from 1844. If you missed it, check the pit behind Surry Hills' Police Centre on Albion Street. ( https://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=a...noid=6j6RnccS7cnIH2-Eyq-OVw&cbp=12,40.65,,0,0 ). This was forcibly cleared in the 1930s. And this land use is what the Rocks clearance went into. Overbuilt terraces to serve industry and warehouses. Which had exactly the same medical problems that The Rocks clearance had.

And those "open airy suburbs" were opened for the profit of the same people who initially developed, operated, and then cleared slums.

You mean on docks I'm guessing? ... But the argument that because the law doesn't prevent every bad from happening and doesn't punish every guilty individual is frankly insane.

Or perhaps my argument was that the law and morality serve specific class interests, and enforcement and the nature of statute law are high on those lists of class service. The same deaths you decry as incidental were within a stroll systematic.

Everybody wins.
Except renters. And workers in industries, or the children of those workers, whose rate of wage increase falls short of the rate of increase in property prices or rents.
 

JSmith

Banned
BTW it is an existing neighborhood in Denver.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Points,_Denver

Five Points, Denver

Light rail station at Five Points Plaza on Welton Street


Five Points Is one of Denver's oldest historic neighborhoods. It is located on the northeast side of the downtown central business district. It is in the part of Northeast Denver where the downtown street grid meets the neighborhood street grid of the first Denver suburbs. The five points in the district name are the vertexes formed where four streets meet: 26th Avenue, 27th Street, Washington Street, and Welton Street.
Five Points came to historical prominence from the 1860s through the 1950s. The neighborhood was home to Denver's aristocracy, housing mayors, governors, and prominent business people. The Welton Street Business District, Clement neighborhood, San Rafael community, Curtis Park and Ballpark neighborhoods are located within the larger Five Points neighborhood.
Historically, Five Points had an African American majority population but recent demographic change has brought about a majority white population (57 percent), a large Latino population (23 percent), with the black population now a much diminished group in the community (15 percent).
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History[edit source | edit]

Five Points was known as the "Harlem of the West". It became a predominantly African-American neighborhood in Denver because discriminatory home sale laws in other neighborhoods forbade black people from settling in them. From the 1920s to the 1950s the community thrived with a rich mix of local business and commerce along the Welton Corridor offering the neighborhood butcher, real estate companies, drug stores, religious organizations, tailors, restaurants, barbers and many other main street services. Welton Street was also home to over fifty bars and clubs, where some of the greatest jazz musicians such as Billie Holiday, Duke Ellington, Miles Davis, Nat King Cole, Count Basie, Dizzy Gillespie and others performed. Black performers that other hotels in Denver would not accommodate stayed at the Rossonian Hotel, built in 1912, and performed there, making it a famous music venue.

Five Points district c. 1885


The Five Points community suffered from the late 1950s through the late 1990s because of drugs, crime, and urban flight. Many properties were abandoned, the local economy became somewhat irrelevant and the larger market found local business conditions unappealing. Attempts at redevelopment were made but there were many hindrances to reinvestment. The district became a no-man's land in need of a larger vision and a new generation of leadership.
Five Points has always been a neighborhood with a diverse economic mix of residents, evidenced by the variety of houses there. Mansions were built next to row homes. Many of the rich began moving out of Five Points in the late 19th century to live in the more popular Capitol Hill neighborhood. Five Points was also home to a large Jewish population and is still home to a former synagogue, Temple Emanuel, on the corner of 24th Street and Curtis Street. After World War II, many Japanese-Americans lived in Five Points. Agape Church on the corner of 25th Street and California Street was once a Japanese Methodist church.
Five Points today[edit source | edit]


Location of Five Points in Denver


Attempts to rebuild a strong business economy on Welton Street began in 2009 with the formation of the Five Points Business District. Progress is being made, with a new coffee shop at The Points development, as well the rehabilitation of older properties on the East end of the street. In early 2013 another coffee shop and a fitness studio leased space in a newly renovated property on 30th Street. The long empty Rossonian Hotel continues to be a reminder of the glory days but does not yet have any firm prospects for a tenant. Live music venues account for a sense of vibrancy on the nights when a concert is scheduled. Residents in the neighboring blocks are anxious for services that cater to the needs of the changing community.
A new apartment complex will be built started in 2014 at the corner of Park Avenue West and Welton, directly across the street from Sonny Lawson Park. And in 2013, Sonny Lawson saw many improvements with new ball field fencing and facilities as well as improvements to the layout of the park.
Five Points history is recorded and exhibited at the Black American West Museum and Heritage Center and at the Blair-Caldwell African American Research Library. A number of African-American churches and businesses still exist in the community.
Denver's Juneteenth festival draws thousands of people every year. A parade starts at Manual High School and goes down to Welton Street where vendors sell merchandise and street performers entertain the crowd.
In the early 1990s, Denver's first light rail system connected the downtown business district to Five Points. With the expanded light rail system and the forthcoming train to the airport, residents have better public transportation to all over the metro area. A new transit stop is being constructed at 38th and Blake which will provide train service to DIA in 2015.
In the 2010 Census, the neighborhood was 56.95% white, 15.23% African American, 1.72% Asian, and 0.81% Native American. Hispanic or Latino of any race is 22.53% of the population.[1]
Note; In 2012, former Colorado House Speaker Andrew Romanoff spearheaded an initiative to convert a 100 year-old horse barn in the Curtis Park Neighborhood of Five Points into a not-for-profit business accelerator.
 
Precisely not the point being made. Take your "deserving poor" narrative elsewhere. The Rocks were cleared for two purposes: preventing generalised plague, and to release fresh land for landlords. And the slums they were inserted into (as below) suffered the same plagues, murders, involuntary prostitution and substance abuse issues. There was no decency in The Rocks clearance. You seem to be from the place, whether by employment or moral ideology, that Andy Anderson specifically criticises: those directly responsible for the day to day administration of capitalism and its subordination and suborning of workers.



That's nice. This isn't 1930. Holy hell, it is like the social context of housing is more important than the actual physical layout in most instances. Oh my god, it is like you've confirmed Engel's primary thesis on Manchester from 1844. If you missed it, check the pit behind Surry Hills' Police Centre on Albion Street. ( https://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=a...noid=6j6RnccS7cnIH2-Eyq-OVw&cbp=12,40.65,,0,0 ). This was forcibly cleared in the 1930s. And this land use is what the Rocks clearance went into. Overbuilt terraces to serve industry and warehouses. Which had exactly the same medical problems that The Rocks clearance had.

And those "open airy suburbs" were opened for the profit of the same people who initially developed, operated, and then cleared slums.



Or perhaps my argument was that the law and morality serve specific class interests, and enforcement and the nature of statute law are high on those lists of class service. The same deaths you decry as incidental were within a stroll systematic.


Except renters. And workers in industries, or the children of those workers, whose rate of wage increase falls short of the rate of increase in property prices or rents.

Not knowing much about the kind of thing quoted, I will make this point:

The one thing that I've noticed in reading up on this sort of stuff is that the slums that get cleared have their problems transferred to other places. Those other neighbourhoods then become slums (or just generally 'bad' neighbourhoods) and get a horrible reputation that the previous places now don't have because they've been cleared up and now look really nice. Sure, slum clearance help make a place look nice and ensure it's free of disease. But it doesn't actually get rid of the problems of disease, drug abuse, organised crime and others, but just transfers them.

That said, Five Points, New York, as it was in the 19th century up to the mid-Victorian era, was a horrible place to live. Infant mortality was high, outbreaks of disease were common, and tenement houses were crammed. But on the other hand it was full of cheap saloons, restaurants, and theatres, where people could easily get a drink, see a stage show, or get something to eat. Not to mention, tap dancing began there and it was a cultural melting pot. It's quite easy to imagine groups of young pickpockets like Fagin's gang there (Yes, I know Oliver Twist is set in Saffron Hill in London, but both areas had reputations as slums) picking the pockets of the tourists who toured the area.
 
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BTW it is an existing neighborhood in Denver.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Points,_Denver

Five Points, Denver

Light rail station at Five Points Plaza on Welton Street


Five Points Is one of Denver's oldest historic neighborhoods. It is located on the northeast side of the downtown central business district. It is in the part of Northeast Denver where the downtown street grid meets the neighborhood street grid of the first Denver suburbs. The five points in the district name are the vertexes formed where four streets meet: 26th Avenue, 27th Street, Washington Street, and Welton Street.
Five Points came to historical prominence from the 1860s through the 1950s. The neighborhood was home to Denver's aristocracy, housing mayors, governors, and prominent business people. The Welton Street Business District, Clement neighborhood, San Rafael community, Curtis Park and Ballpark neighborhoods are located within the larger Five Points neighborhood.
Historically, Five Points had an African American majority population but recent demographic change has brought about a majority white population (57 percent), a large Latino population (23 percent), with the black population now a much diminished group in the community (15 percent).
Contents




[hide]
History[edit source | edit]

Five Points was known as the "Harlem of the West". It became a predominantly African-American neighborhood in Denver because discriminatory home sale laws in other neighborhoods forbade black people from settling in them. From the 1920s to the 1950s the community thrived with a rich mix of local business and commerce along the Welton Corridor offering the neighborhood butcher, real estate companies, drug stores, religious organizations, tailors, restaurants, barbers and many other main street services. Welton Street was also home to over fifty bars and clubs, where some of the greatest jazz musicians such as Billie Holiday, Duke Ellington, Miles Davis, Nat King Cole, Count Basie, Dizzy Gillespie and others performed. Black performers that other hotels in Denver would not accommodate stayed at the Rossonian Hotel, built in 1912, and performed there, making it a famous music venue.

Five Points district c. 1885


The Five Points community suffered from the late 1950s through the late 1990s because of drugs, crime, and urban flight. Many properties were abandoned, the local economy became somewhat irrelevant and the larger market found local business conditions unappealing. Attempts at redevelopment were made but there were many hindrances to reinvestment. The district became a no-man's land in need of a larger vision and a new generation of leadership.
Five Points has always been a neighborhood with a diverse economic mix of residents, evidenced by the variety of houses there. Mansions were built next to row homes. Many of the rich began moving out of Five Points in the late 19th century to live in the more popular Capitol Hill neighborhood. Five Points was also home to a large Jewish population and is still home to a former synagogue, Temple Emanuel, on the corner of 24th Street and Curtis Street. After World War II, many Japanese-Americans lived in Five Points. Agape Church on the corner of 25th Street and California Street was once a Japanese Methodist church.
Five Points today[edit source | edit]


Location of Five Points in Denver


Attempts to rebuild a strong business economy on Welton Street began in 2009 with the formation of the Five Points Business District. Progress is being made, with a new coffee shop at The Points development, as well the rehabilitation of older properties on the East end of the street. In early 2013 another coffee shop and a fitness studio leased space in a newly renovated property on 30th Street. The long empty Rossonian Hotel continues to be a reminder of the glory days but does not yet have any firm prospects for a tenant. Live music venues account for a sense of vibrancy on the nights when a concert is scheduled. Residents in the neighboring blocks are anxious for services that cater to the needs of the changing community.
A new apartment complex will be built started in 2014 at the corner of Park Avenue West and Welton, directly across the street from Sonny Lawson Park. And in 2013, Sonny Lawson saw many improvements with new ball field fencing and facilities as well as improvements to the layout of the park.
Five Points history is recorded and exhibited at the Black American West Museum and Heritage Center and at the Blair-Caldwell African American Research Library. A number of African-American churches and businesses still exist in the community.
Denver's Juneteenth festival draws thousands of people every year. A parade starts at Manual High School and goes down to Welton Street where vendors sell merchandise and street performers entertain the crowd.
In the early 1990s, Denver's first light rail system connected the downtown business district to Five Points. With the expanded light rail system and the forthcoming train to the airport, residents have better public transportation to all over the metro area. A new transit stop is being constructed at 38th and Blake which will provide train service to DIA in 2015.
In the 2010 Census, the neighborhood was 56.95% white, 15.23% African American, 1.72% Asian, and 0.81% Native American. Hispanic or Latino of any race is 22.53% of the population.[1]
Note; In 2012, former Colorado House Speaker Andrew Romanoff spearheaded an initiative to convert a 100 year-old horse barn in the Curtis Park Neighborhood of Five Points into a not-for-profit business accelerator.

I'm talking about the New York neighbourhood.
 
Rebuilding Five Points...

IIRC, getting off the topic of gentrification and back to Five Points:

The premise of the story mentioned in the OP (set in the future) is that Five Points exists again because the area was redeveloped and the intersection was rebuilt. Is this even possible?
 
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