So...selling Canada off...Britain has essentially taken the gun, pointed it at their head, and pulled the trigger while Germany looks on in bemused shock.
Canada: That deal is not valid, that is the Dominion of Canada, we're the Republic of Canada Now.So...selling Canada off...Britain has essentially taken the gun, pointed it at their head, and pulled the trigger while Germany looks on in bemused shock.
Canada: That deal is not valid, that is the Dominion of Canada, we're the Republic of Canada Now.
Australia: we're off before they try to sell us. and so on
How will Great Britain get away with selling off a province (British Columbia) that has been part of the confederation since its beginning? The territories, I could more or less see, but BC is far more problematic. And I don't really see the US wanting to gain territory with people that are friendly but clearly want to be part of their own nation. Caribbean islands, on the other hand, would seem easier: I could envision the Stars and Stripes flying over Kingston and a number of other islands. Likewise I could sort of see Newfoundland since that's still a crown colony at this point.
If Canada survives, its politics will be a wild ride for sure.Point is noted and a good question. British Columbia was not an original province of the Confederation, it became one about 1870 or 1871 partially in response to secession threats to join the US if not granted provincial status and a railway tie to the rest of Canada, which was made good on about 1888. As of 1918 the population is about 400,000 and there is a lot of infrastructure to develop, so the province is not set or difficult to alter as yet. Roadways to Alaska would be potentially possible while the mineral wealth of so much of Canada would be open for exploitation by American interests, who would be thrilled at the chance. Gold is still being mined in the US and that might be an issue in the nearer future, the irony of two powers potentially conflicting yet growing by the same means could also come up. And there would be a difference between conquest by a foreign power and takeover with the consent of the former power, especially if full rights are given in the process.
Some other questions this might raise: What effect will so many (former) Canadians have on American politics, especially in close elections? Which might now be eligible for the White House or Congress themselves? And what becomes of a fractured Canada when they two opposing cultures have the history that Quebec and (Ontario + Maritimes) do, especially as London retains Newfoundland?
I am enjoying this timeline. Here is a some thoughts and a questions.
1) It is my understanding that South Africa conquered German South West Africa during the war. I am assuming that they will keep it regardless of what Britain says.
2) Will the Spanish Flu still happen in this timeline?
2) I grew up in Louisiana and early in the 20th century, the speaking of French was strongly discouraged. If there is a large enough influx of French from France to New Orleans that may change.
3) I now live in Central Texas which has a several German settlements. The speaking of German was suppressed after WW1. With the German victory and the lack of significant American causalities, maybe there will not be the backlash German in Texas and the rest of the US.
I too have pondered upon this, and the only thing I can think of would look something like BC becoming something more than a state, but less than an independent nation. Like the USA, Canada likely consists of a few heavily populated urban centers, a greater number of sub-urban population densities, and the bulk of the space is made up of sparsely populated/vacant lands. Perhaps taking into account these factors, and implementing new political subdivisions accordingly, something could be worked out that would be less than perfect, but at least good enough?And I don't really see the US wanting to gain territory with people that are friendly but clearly want to be part of their own nation.
The US could group the more populous parts (the ones closer to the former border) into some sort of arrangement similar to Puerto Rico OTL (but with a lighter hand), with the rest (the parts with population too low to be a state anyway) becoming territories.I too have pondered upon this, and the only thing I can think of would look something like BC becoming something more than a state, but less than an independent nation. Like the USA, Canada likely consists of a few heavily populated urban centers, a greater number of sub-urban population densities, and the bulk of the space is made up of sparsely populated/vacant lands. Perhaps taking into account these factors, and implementing new political subdivisions accordingly, something could be worked out that would be less than perfect, but at least good enough?
I am enjoying this timeline. Here is a some thoughts and a questions.
1) It is my understanding that South Africa conquered German South West Africa during the war. I am assuming that they will keep it regardless of what Britain says.
1. Noted and anticipated. Victors can extract more in the peace. But what else might be more economically prudent for both sides? How might Sudafrika and Germany benefit in one stroke?
Point is noted and a good question. British Columbia was not an original province of the Confederation, it became one about 1870 or 1871 partially in response to secession threats to join the US if not granted provincial status and a railway tie to the rest of Canada, which was made good on about 1888. As of 1918 the population is about 400,000 and there is a lot of infrastructure to develop, so the province is not set or difficult to alter as yet. Roadways to Alaska would be potentially possible while the mineral wealth of so much of Canada would be open for exploitation by American interests, who would be thrilled at the chance. Gold is still being mined in the US and that might be an issue in the nearer future, the irony of two powers potentially conflicting yet growing by the same means could also come up. And there would be a difference between conquest by a foreign power and takeover with the consent of the former power, especially if full rights are given in the process.
Some other questions this might raise: What effect will so many (former) Canadians have on American politics, especially in close elections? Which might now be eligible for the White House or Congress themselves? And what becomes of a fractured Canada when they two opposing cultures have the history that Quebec and (Ontario + Maritimes) do, especially as London retains Newfoundland?
Why would the german ask that? Denmark was neutral at the time, and the time Denmark wanted to join germany was a desesperation maneauvre to keep Holstein....so yeah that not make sense is almost ASB.Wilhelm nodded, he liked the idea as the nation was large enough to be helpful in time of war but not enough to be a threat in times of peace. It also opened a significant market for German goods. “Are they amenable to our requests on Denmark”?
More like diktats, thought von Hertling, but, “yes, Denmark will be recognized as being in the German sphere of influence and eventually asked to join our Empire. Of course, all of the above will join our new European Union for trade and commercial purposes”.