Kantai Kessen-an Alternate Pacific War

is American isolationism *so* strong that they'll simply stand by when the entire half of a continent is taken over by two fascist powers?

American isolationism ends where american economic imperialism begins :D.

In our case, China was contended by the Japanese and American empires for economic colonization and exploitation purposes. You can even put Lindbergh in the White House, the contrast with Japan will inevitably grow and reach open conflict levels.
 
1941 / Japan

Interesting update - so no Pearl Harbour. Interested to see what happens next.

In our case, China was contended by the Japanese and American empires for economic colonization and exploitation purposes. You can even put Lindbergh in the White House, the contrast with Japan will inevitably grow and reach open conflict levels.

Basically. America wouldn't be sitting while Japan's destroying all of continental Asia, if even possible.
 
As usual any comments are welcomed! Also dont worry, America will not surrender until Japanese troops are marching through through the streets of Washington D.C. as said by Yamamoto himself!

not that it will happen neccesarily
 
1942 / Philippines

The American defence of the Philippines can be described in one word: pathetic. Nothing had went right for the Americans and everything had seemed to just fall in place for the Japanese as they quickly routed the green, undertrained, and inexperienced mix of Filipinos, National Guardsmen, non-combat troops, constabulary, and newly created Commonwealth units, pushing them back from the beaches with the Americans unable to hold back the flood of Japanese troops. It wasn't before long when General MacArthur enacted War Plan Orange 3 and ordered the withdraw of all remaining army units onto Bataan, where they are expected to hold out into further reinforcements can come to the rescue.

But help seemed impossible to get, especially with the withdrawal of much of the Navy units from the area, leaving the Philippenes to "wither on the vine" as General MacArthur had said. He accused the Navy for abandoning the Army, leaving it to fend for itself while it ran away for safety, and against an inferior race at that! But it seemed like no help will be forthcoming, but a strategic mistake on the Japanese suddenly seemed like a chance at redemption at saving the heroic boys trapped on Bataan! By moving the timetable of the invasion of the Dutch East Indies up, much of the pressure on Bataan subsided, and some small, but greatly over exaggerated (thanks to MacArthur's deep connections with the media) victories prompted the citizens of America to petition for a relief force to be sent to the Philippenes, and to "teach those Jap b******s a lesson".

The goverment was forced to do something, and so War Plan Orange, originally abandoned already, was dusted off and updated, and the path was set for the American fleet to sail to to its doom, right into the maw of the Japanese fleet, watching and waiting to pounce when the moment presented itself.
 

TFSmith121

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If your point of departure is the autumn of 1941 and

Comments of anykind is encouraged!:D

If your point of departure is the autumn of 1941 and an IJNGS decision not to mount the Oahu raid, that post dates Germany First (as made clear by the ABC staff conferences and the RAINBOW war plans), and there's a clear strategic consensus across party lines.

Even if Germany didn't declare war on the US Dec. 10, that would not have changed.

FDR, Stimson, Knox, Marshall, King et al were professionals and strategists of the highest order; there are reasons the Germans and Japanese were utterly destroyed less than 44 months after the US entered the war in both theaters, and it wasn't because the Americans were "lucky," much less driven into precipitate offensives for the sake of publicity...

I'd suggest the two volumes of Strategic Planning for Coalition Warfare by Matloff et al., which are both available for free on the Army Historical Center's website. Takes one search and a click or two to find them.

Best,
 
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