Kaiserreich: Legacy of the Weltkrieg

What would a realistic Qing China look like through the fifties and sixties?
I gonna say for the YCP, since eit is the route I have the better grasp on it.

At this time it would be similar to cold war era fastly developing nations such as South Korea, singapore, Brazil. It wouldn't laugh on the arrival of technology, but it would laugh on the distribution of technology (so like, while the average American will have a TV on the late 40s, the average Qing might only get one on the late 50s or easily 60s). There will be specialists alerting how China will be a superpower on the future (way earlier than OTL due no Mao), living standards would be increasing as wealthy inequality. Dissent would have been mostly out down since the warlords have been crushed and pacified.

Maybe on the 1980s China can get to the status they have today, as a strong world power capable of investing everywhere and competing with America. The Aisin Gioro would be the richest family on earth.
 

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What would a realistic German Empire look like by 2021?
For government form? A full constitutional monarchy is likely, though with a somewhat stronger royal powers then you see in most modern European kingdoms. It would be interesting whther it would go down a centralizing or federal way, though I would say that federal especially for such a large state is likelier. For territory, probably most of 1914 borders, though perhaps if Poland is friendly they woild eventually relinquish Poznan. For colonies, the eastern once are a lost cause to hold onto fully, though setting up friendly states and having few naval bases in ports like Singapur is quite possible. In Africa, the same is true I think, though perhaps some areas loke Sudwest Afrika might remain a theoretical parts of Germany, or at least share a head of state. Economically, Germany is likely to be a strong powerhouse, especially if they can fully use Mitteleuropas economic potentional and perhaps involve whatever state or states rise in Danube. They are certainly an European hegemon, though competing with US, probably China and Russia and perhaps other powers in other areas. A lot depends on if they can placate their Eastern sphere or if it goes its own way or back to Russia. Socially its frankly a toss up, as the 2. Weltkrieg might start massive social changes, though a somewhat more conservative outlook is likely.

So all in all a global superpower with likely a democratic system and strong economy. At least thats my view, and I am interested in other perspectives.
 
For government form? A full constitutional monarchy is likely, though with a somewhat stronger royal powers then you see in most modern European kingdoms. It would be interesting whther it would go down a centralizing or federal way, though I would say that federal especially for such a large state is likelier. For territory, probably most of 1914 borders, though perhaps if Poland is friendly they woild eventually relinquish Poznan. For colonies, the eastern once are a lost cause to hold onto fully, though setting up friendly states and having few naval bases in ports like Singapur is quite possible. In Africa, the same is true I think, though perhaps some areas loke Sudwest Afrika might remain a theoretical parts of Germany, or at least share a head of state. Economically, Germany is likely to be a strong powerhouse, especially if they can fully use Mitteleuropas economic potentional and perhaps involve whatever state or states rise in Danube. They are certainly an European hegemon, though competing with US, probably China and Russia and perhaps other powers in other areas. A lot depends on if they can placate their Eastern sphere or if it goes its own way or back to Russia. Socially its frankly a toss up, as the 2. Weltkrieg might start massive social changes, though a somewhat more conservative outlook is likely.

So all in all a global superpower with likely a democratic system and strong economy. At least thats my view, and I am interested in other perspectives.
It might pass Russia in population also, and without the brain drain caused by the Nazis Germany would be the most advanced country on earth. Heck, German might be the world Lingua Franca, not English.
 

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For government form? A full constitutional monarchy is likely, though with a somewhat stronger royal powers then you see in most modern European kingdoms. It would be interesting whther it would go down a centralizing or federal way, though I would say that federal especially for such a large state is likelier. For territory, probably most of 1914 borders, though perhaps if Poland is friendly they woild eventually relinquish Poznan. For colonies, the eastern once are a lost cause to hold onto fully, though setting up friendly states and having few naval bases in ports like Singapur is quite possible. In Africa, the same is true I think, though perhaps some areas loke Sudwest Afrika might remain a theoretical parts of Germany, or at least share a head of state. Economically, Germany is likely to be a strong powerhouse, especially if they can fully use Mitteleuropas economic potentional and perhaps involve whatever state or states rise in Danube. They are certainly an European hegemon, though competing with US, probably China and Russia and perhaps other powers in other areas. A lot depends on if they can placate their Eastern sphere or if it goes its own way or back to Russia. Socially its frankly a toss up, as the 2. Weltkrieg might start massive social changes, though a somewhat more conservative outlook is likely.

So all in all a global superpower with likely a democratic system and strong economy. At least thats my view, and I am interested in other perspectives.

If Louis Ferdinand becomes Kaiser, Germany might become more progressive
 
I had a magnificent campaign as the Right KMT on Guangxi, here is it my fellas!
Oh, and it is borderline REQUIRED for the Non supported Nanjing Clique to win the league of the eight provinces war, if they lose it will be hell to take the coast.

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I encircled about a third of the Nanjing-german army early, this allowed me to defeat the enemy in about 3 months.

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Fengtian was halfway into defeating Ma when I attacked and cut their army in half, and then BOOM Japan declared war on them, glorious!

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Li Zongren kept advancing more and more leading his troops into Manchuria.

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The capital got moved by this point.

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Tutelage today, democracy tomorrow!

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The Japanese imperialists got defeated! Chiang was avenged!

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Sun Fo got appointed and elections were called later that year. The KMT party got almost 90% of the votes :D
 
I must say, Kaiserreich is extremely frustrating to play on my poor pc. I have to spend six hours on each playthrough, so I play one or two games every day. As soon I return to work I won't be able to play a single campaign unless I cut a few hours of my sleep schedule.

This is nobody fault, in fact the KR team is maybe the one that struggled the most to make their mod work fast on lower end pcs. I'm just writing this here since I feel frustrated and nobody would care about it on my social circle. This can get even worse if I'm playing as someone like the left KMT and lose for failing to counter a naval invasion after like four hours of gameplay.
 
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What would a realistic German Empire look like by 2021?
This was something that existed as post- WK2, late game content for Germany back in the DH verison of the mod, but there was the idea of the Kaiserbund Project.

Basically, after Germany's victory in the WK2, even if they managed to beat back the Internationale, the Russian, the Japanese, and potentially the Entente all at once, the economic realities that caused Black Monday in the first place ensure, and the country gets massively weighted down by it unwieldy colonial empire, when resources and manpower are needed back in Europe for post-war reconstruction, not to mention keeping the occupied territories and new puppet states in Europe in check.

Hence, by the 1950s, a coalition of social democrats and liberals in the Reichstag will propose the Kaiserbund Project to start the decolonization process. Basically, think of it as a mix of the British Commonwealth and Françafrique, with most of Germany's overseas colonies being granted independence and home rule as Dominions under Berlin's sphere of influence, with Germany retaining basing rights, and preferential trade access. While Mittelafrika will be getting broken up into smaller independent states, or as a collection of 3-4 large federations.

Naturally, the conservatives will be STRONGLY against this idea, with you having multiple opportunities to reconsider the idea every 5 or so years if you reject it the first time. The longer you wait to accept the Kaiserbund Project, the larger the debuff that you get from keeping the colonial empire together will be, but at the same time, the lower the amount of discontent and unrest you will be getting domestically in Germany, as even the conservatives will realized that the colonial empire is just not economically viable anymore.
 
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