(Kaiserreich) (DBWI) What if the Entente won the Weltkrieg?

Would the 2nd American civil war still happen?
Would Britain fall to syndicalism?

I frankly don’t see this happening, but I guess it could happen if America entered the war, but with their isolationist policy I just can’t see this happening.

Maybe France was actually competent?

I’d like to see how you guys think the Entente could of won the Weltkrieg.
 
Would the 2nd American civil war still happen?
Would Britain fall to syndicalism?

I frankly don’t see this happening, but I guess it could happen if America entered the war, but with their isolationist policy I just can’t see this happening.

Maybe France was actually competent?

I’d like to see how you guys think the Entente could of won the Weltkrieg.

Have the americans to join the war, they could outproduce everyone in europe and win the war simple by flooding the camp. In OTL the german empire was very close from starving at the end of the war, imagine if the USN had joined the blockade?
 
Have the americans to join the war, they could outproduce everyone in europe and win the war simple by flooding the camp. In OTL the german empire was very close from starving at the end of the war, imagine if the USN had joined the blockade?
Maybe, but again, America would never join the war. Ok, lets just say that magically, the Entente wins the Weltkreig, what happens next?
 
Maybe, but again, America would never join the war. Ok, lets just say that magically, the Entente wins the Weltkreig, what happens next?

Hell on earth, probably. The monarchies would fall and without the germans helping the russians, the bolsheviks could have taken over Russia, I don't want to even think of that possibility. Germany also could go red too, and the classical world would die.
 
Hell on earth, probably. The monarchies would fall and without the germans helping the russians, the bolsheviks could have taken over Russia, I don't want to even think of that possibility. Germany also could go red too, and the classical world would die.
Oh yeah, that's true. Would the 2nd american civil war still happen?
 
Oh yeah, that's true. Would the 2nd american civil war still happen?

I think so; regardless of the immediate causes of it, several sectors of the US population back then were disenfranchised, impoverished, and on the receiving end of discrimination and/or racism. Maybe there wouldn't have been a civil war, but there would certainly have been quite a few bloody revolts - that could've snowballed into a civil war.
 
Well. Maybe the first Soviet Revolt might have succeeded? They nearly won even with German intervention OTL and I don't see the Entente as being very eager to help out Kerensky's Russia.
 

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I think there is Mod on this subject called "Führer-Reich", unfortunately it is not supported on STEAM or the new version-1.4.2. - it is for a far older version of the game system.

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But on the side, I would agree there would be a Russian revolution. As for a second US civil war - the best way is to say that October 29, 1929 Crash hits the US harder and Hoover did nothing to stop it. Communists, Marxists, Syndicalism, or what ever might look a good way to solve it. Combined with the "Bonus Army" and the rise of Huey Long in the South - Fascist-thought might look a way out of the problem.
 
I'm not as sure as many here seem to be that the US would never have joined the war. If for example the Germans had reinstated unrestricted submarine warfare then that could have helped sway popular sentiment in favour of joining the war.

On top of that. A lot of money was loaned to various Entente nations by American companies. So, when those nations collapsed a lot of people lost a lot of money. Had they realised that that was a possibility there may have been more pressure exerted by the wealthy on the US government to intervene to some level.

I don't know how big of an effect this would have had on the war but I think it would have given the Entente more of a chance. I don't know if the US would have been able to mobilise fast enough to save Russia or France , unless they joined in perhaps early 1915 and 1917 respectively.
 
Hell on earth, probably. The monarchies would fall and without the germans helping the russians, the bolsheviks could have taken over Russia, I don't want to even think of that possibility. Germany also could go red too, and the classical world would die.

Dunno about that, I mean America 'went red' when the Combined Syndicates won the Civil War, but they've remained a democratic nation to this day, and arguably helped stop Totalism emerging in Britain and France.

Actually there's a thought...would we still have Syndicalism becoming popular in America in this case?
 
Dunno about that, I mean America 'went red' when the Combined Syndicates won the Civil War, but they've remained a democratic nation to this day, and arguably helped stop Totalism emerging in Britain and France.

Actually there's a thought...would we still have Syndicalism becoming popular in America in this case?

Considering that despite CSA and UoB efforts Totalism remains popular in both East Asian Syndicalist thought and the Italian Socialist Republic.

Come to think of it Syndicalist thought might be replaced by DeLeonist or Leninist theory as the prime exporter of Socialism. Recall that despite its initial failure Leninism survived in Georgia til 1939 and still remains a viable opposition in both the Polish and Ukranian syndicalist movements.
 
Considering that despite CSA and UoB efforts Totalism remains popular in both East Asian Syndicalist thought and the Italian Socialist Republic.

True...you really do see quite a divergence in the Internationale these days, don't you? The Combined Syndicates, Union and France are all Democratic Syndicalist - the CS especially, though I suppose that's natural given that they were voted into power in 1936 and the 'Revolution' was actually defending the democratically elected government from a mess of reactionaries. And then on the other side...

Though the CS really seems to be making an effort to 'persuade' the non-democratic members into line. Usually things along the lines of 'democratise or you can't buy our stuff, and our Defence Unions make much better stuff than yours'.
 
True...you really do see quite a divergence in the Internationale these days, don't you? The Combined Syndicates, Union and France are all Democratic Syndicalist - the CS especially, though I suppose that's natural given that they were voted into power in 1936 and the 'Revolution' was actually defending the democratically elected government from a mess of reactionaries. And then on the other side...

Though the CS really seems to be making an effort to 'persuade' the non-democratic members into line. Usually things along the lines of 'democratise or you can't buy our stuff, and our Defence Unions make much better stuff than yours'.

*Shrugs*

The Internationale is varied. You've got the democratic syndicalists in the CSA, the Trade Unionists in Ireland, Totalists in the Phillipines and I don't even know what to call Chile.

Really the CSA has to watch itself though, if it goes openly against the East Asian block or the Mediterranean Syndicates then the Internationale might be at risk of splitting.
 
Africa would probably be shared with the English unlike the French dominated one we have.

With the English in Africa, We wouldn't have had neutral countries to invade.

Also, thanks to the traitors in Paris. Without them and the threat of Syndicalism, the boches would have intervened when Petain tore apart MittleAfrika.
 
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