Kaiserreich a TL

[MichaelWest]

The Crown Prince dying before his father ?
...
Really ill fate. Next in succession would be Prince Eitel Friedrich, who - unfortunatly - also died in 1942. He would be seen and welcomed as the new Monarch, having truly earned his Iron Crosses both classes as well as the Pour le Mèrite, only ... he didn't have an heir.
Who would follow him ?
If I understand the Hohenzollern rules right it would be his younger brother Prince Adalbert. Not much known of him beside being a fairly capable light cruiser commander. At least he had a son of whom even less is known ... only that he was the spring off of an "unequal" "war-time"-marriage. But maybe in the time of need (1948) these laws might be altered.

Sorry, I lost track of the Wilhems, it would be Wilhelm IV dying in 1940, Prince Wilhelm of Prussia (Wilhelm Friedrich Franz Joseph Christian Olaf; 4 July 1906 – 26 May 1940), not the Crown Prince, I assume he becomes Kaiser in 1941 and lives to 1951 as OTL. (I keep date of death constant unless it is a POD just to leave those butterflies well enough alone.)

 

[NoMommsen]

Oh, no need to keep Wilhelm Friedrich Franz Joseph Christian Olaf death date ... only if you want to start WW2 as OTL.
He died after being heavily wounded in the Battle of France.

 

[Michel Van]

As always I enjoy different takes on how the Great War might have been altered, I am following your thinking with great interest!

So are you having a conservative French government assume power post-war with the left resurgent by the 1930s? My read is that the French right was smaller but by no means impotent and the left was quite divided. Does your Kaiserreich see coalitions between the Liberals, Socialists and Zentrum with the Socialists growing in influence as well as moving Centre / Centre-left? If so, do you see the French socialists warming to German Social Democrats, thawing relations over time?

I agree that Germany would attract, fund and hold some amazing scientific talent, thus I foresee them getting the atomic bomb first, but I am dubious if they use it first, in fact I can foresee them never being used in anger once a "cold" war settles in. By 1941 Kaiser Wilhelm I is dead, Prince Wilhelm seems far less adventuresome outside the bedroom than his father, and if the future Wilhelm III dies in 1940 (call it fate), then one can only speculate how Louis Ferdinand might behave. I am hopeful for the erosion of power for the Kaiser and greater power in the Reichstag, Germany would see atomic weapons as strong deterrent to Communist aggression but without more I see no reason for Germany to run afoul of America aside from trade issues. But I look forward to your paths taken.

on French politics it's very complex and strange world
was is Labeled as Liberals, Socialists and centrum are quite different politic
What surprise me was how unstable the union sacrée "Great union" was during WW1 with six Prime minister in succession.
After loosing war the union sacrée break apart into numberless fraction of political parties and changing coalitions.
just like the OTL Weimar Republic, but with major difference: a majority of them are left political spectrum.
Yes there will be Center, conservative, nationalist, but only rare extrem far right parties without power.
In this environment and economic crisis the Communist rise far easier to power as a "french NSDAP analog"
But that not imply that Communist win easy, they will use same methods like NSDAP to get in Power.
there brutally, in combination of french anti-Semitism will let to french jews to find refuge in German Empire

like Aircraft designer Marcel Bloch who find at Heinkel Flugzeugwerke new job he will change his name in Marcel Sturmer
and build the Jet fighter "Donner 3" in 1960s
in OTL Marcel Bloch change his name in Marcel Dassault and design this plane as "Mirage III"

On Succession of German Throne

Wilhelm II (center) dies in 1941, follow by Wilhelm III (Left)who died in 1951, planned was that grand son Wilhelm IV. succeed (right)
But in OTL 1933, He renounced any rights to the succession for himself and his future children to marry Dorothea von Salviati.
His grandfather Wilhelm II did not approve of the marriage and ITTL exclude him from Family. (Analog to Wallis Simpson Prince Edward,)
Follow by his brother Louis Ferdinand as Emperor of Imperial Germany (analog to King George VI) while grand son Wilhelm died in ww2

Louis Ferdinand I. was educated in Berlin and deviated from his family's tradition by not pursuing a military career.
Instead, he travelled extensively and settled for some time in Detroit, where he befriended Henry Ford and became acquainted with Franklin Delano Roosevelt, among others.
He held a great interest in engineering. Recalled from the United States upon his brother's renunciation of the throne, he got involved in the German aviation industry,
He will be a key figure in WW2 in German Air force effort while Göring rots in a in Belgium military cemeterie.
in 1951 he become next Emperor of Germany. usher a new era in German Empire: the "Wirdschaftswunder" and "Fortschritt durch Technik" and socials reforms.

 

[MichaelWest]

Oh, no need to keep Wilhelm Friedrich Franz Joseph Christian Olaf death date ... only if you want to start WW2 as OTL.
He died after being heavily wounded in the Battle of France.

For historical figures I keep OTL date of death, it is a "cheat" to hold myself to certain "rocks" in the turbulent sea of time, unless it is my POD. So in my thinking he dies on maneuvers while in the army, it opens the way to his younger brother taking the throne, as posted herein he could be quite a departure for Germany. (And I believe another young Prince died on maneuvers in 1977, so it feels rather "fated.") My nod to the mystery of it all.

 

[MichaelWest]

on French politics it's very complex and strange world
was is Labeled as Liberals, Socialists and centrum are quite different politic
What surprise me was how unstable the union sacrée "Great union" was during WW1 with six Prime minister in succession.
After loosing war the union sacrée break apart into numberless fraction of political parties and changing coalitions.
just like the OTL Weimar Republic, but with major difference: a majority of them are left political spectrum.
Yes there will be Center, conservative, nationalist, but only rare extrem far right parties without power.
In this environment and economic crisis the Communist rise far easier to power as a "french NSDAP analog"
But that not imply that Communist win easy, they will use same methods like NSDAP to get in Power.
there brutally, in combination of french anti-Semitism will let to french jews to find refuge in German Empire

like Aircraft designer Marcel Bloch who find at Heinkel Flugzeugwerke new job he will change his name in Marcel Sturmer
and build the Jet fighter "Donner 3" in 1960s
in OTL Marcel Bloch change his name in Marcel Dassault and design this plane as "Mirage III"

On Succession of German Throne

Wilhelm II (center) dies in 1941, follow by Wilhelm III (Left)who died in 1951, planned was that grand son Wilhelm III succeed (right)
But in OTL 1933, He renounced any rights to the succession for himself and his future children to marry Dorothea von Salviati.
His grandfather Wilhelm II did not approve of the marriage and ITTL exclude him from Family. (Analog to Wallis Simpson Prince Edward,)
Follow by his brother Louis Ferdinand as Emperor of Imperial Germany (analog to King George VI) while grand son Wilhelm died in ww2

Louis Ferdinand was educated in Berlin and deviated from his family's tradition by not pursuing a military career.
Instead, he travelled extensively and settled for some time in Detroit, where he befriended Henry Ford and became acquainted with Franklin Delano Roosevelt, among others.
He held a great interest in engineering. Recalled from the United States upon his brother's renunciation of the throne, he got involved in the German aviation industry,
He will be a key figure in WW2 in German Air force effort while Göring rots in a in Belgium military cemeterie.
in 1951 he become next Emperor of Germany. usher a new era in German Empire: the "Wirdschaftswunder" and "Fortschritt durch Technik" and socials reforms.

In Paris I found an interesting book on conservative French politics, I am still studying it and this era, but my impression is that the French right had more traction to it than I think we assume, although very left leaning, the French have a strong rightist streak. In my opinion not enough to go "Nazi" as some try to speculate, but the Vichy government sheds light on how it might go. That said I do see how the left wrangles for power and France remains a turbulent place post-war, likely for decades. Do you feel that a Great Depression crisis is enough to break the Third Republic finally and where does it go without a war, Vichy and De Gaulle? (Of course I think you have a second world war in your timeline).

In my thinking I have assumed the French aviation industry is as messy as it was OTL, but in time I think more Anglo-French cooperation, in my Kaiserreich the British Empire fairs better and France tucks under its wing more. It is interesting to think of where cetain people go without the war, the Resistance or our events. Yours is an interesting path for Marcel!

On a side note I found it interesting that Bugatti was from Alsace-Lorraine, I wonder if it becomes the premier sports/luxury car in such a different Germany? Porsche might simply design for them.

Agreed. I think Louis Ferdinand, assuming he follows the same path, assuming his brother chooses differently since the Monarchy here lasts (and assuming he still is fated to die in 1940), makes one of the more interesting "what-ifs" in Germany's future. In my thinking he helps cement the German-American relationship, champions the German aviation and high-tech boom, might champion the space program, we might see him navigate Germany to a very strong international position diplomatically, industrially, even culturally. He is quite the man to imagine upon in these timelines.

 

[Michel Van]

In Paris I found an interesting book on conservative French politics, I am still studying it and this era, but my impression is that the French right had more traction to it than I think we assume, although very left leaning, the French have a strong rightist streak. In my opinion not enough to go "Nazi" as some try to speculate, but the Vichy government sheds light on how it might go. That said I do see how the left wrangles for power and France remains a turbulent place post-war, likely for decades. Do you feel that a Great Depression crisis is enough to break the Third Republic finally and where does it go without a war, Vichy and De Gaulle? (Of course I think you have a second world war in your timeline).

For TL i think to end the french third republic and put a french conservative government in post war Fourth Republic.
On rise of french communist there will be allot help from Leo Trotsky and his version of International Help to Revolution.

On a side note I found it interesting that Bugatti was from Alsace-Lorraine, I wonder if it becomes the premier sports/luxury car in such a different Germany? Porsche might simply design for them.

OH Bugatti will be German Company ? that is Cool, next to that will be follow Car Company play a Huge rolle in TL: AUTO UNION
it will be Analog to Volkswagen (never come to existence in this TL) with gamma of people cars of DKW, limousines of AUDI, Sports cars of WANDERER and Luxury Cars of HORCH (biggest rival to Roll&Royce)

I think Louis Ferdinand, assuming he follows the same path, assuming his brother chooses differently since the Monarchy here lasts (and assuming he still is fated to die in 1940), makes one of the more interesting "what-ifs" in Germany's future. In my thinking he helps cement the German-American relationship, champions the German aviation and high-tech boom, might champion the space program, we might see him navigate Germany to a very strong international position diplomatically, industrially, even culturally. He is quite the man to imagine upon in these timelines.

He will also end the "Wilhelminism" or how the Emperor Wilhelm II present him self to public and the public presentation of grandiose military parades.

But today Imperial Germany would more National as OTL Federal Germany.
Similar like OTL french fifth Republic

on Space Program, Werner von Braun will build a Large huge rocket and launch them from Africa east coast...

 

[MichaelWest]

Like you I have a conservative leaning shift that becomes the Fourth Republic, in many regards similar to modern France with a stronger Presidency and pursuing a strongly independent course. Albeit I see them having a better relationship with the UK, at least in cooperative defense projects, so it is Anglo-French partnerships versus Franco-German.

Oddly I see Germany having the Social Democrats here more dominant, akin to how the CDU became the primary umbrella party for so many years, my thinking is that the German right is more fractured with a right leaning Liberal Party, a conservative pro-Monarchy party and the Christian Democrats holding Centre-right in competition with Zentrum holding Centre / Centre-right, especially if Austria is united into "Greater Germany", then Zentrum does not fully fade with CDU rising. Overall I think the Socialists move Centre / Centre-left joined with a junior left leaning Liberal party faction and working with a left-wing Socialist faction party to often hold the reins of power in coalition (especially as Liberals and Zentrum might support them on an ad hoc basis). Assuming the USSR is as revolutionary hostile as OTL or more then the Communist Party likely gets banned and has serious problems but remains a wild card on the far left. I think the far right never coalesces beyond debating societies and fraternal groups, the Conservatives will hold the right and discourage most far-right politics longer term.

By the 1950s I think Franco-German relations are at least stable and peaceful, there should be a lot of trade crossing borders and France may begin to feel like Canada snuggled up to its bigger neighbor. All this might make relations between generally Socialist Germany and conservative France rather interesting!

Indeed I see Auto-Union developing what we now know as the Volkswagen under the DKW marque and growing into the biggest German automaker (and Europe too). Here I think the German automakers steer more luxury generally and develop good export trade with the USA especially, but Auto-Union might see huge success in South America, Africa and Asia with its economy line. Assuming better ties with USA and perhaps a Depression too, I suspect Opel gets better investment from GM so perhaps it holds on as the 3rd biggest after Auto-Union and Daimler-Benz? Maybe Ford does better in Germany also, perhaps holding onto its farm tractor business there longer (and light duty trucks)? And I love the idea of Bugatti being the premier super car of Germany, an unbroken line of development pre-dating Ferrari, et al.

I My thinking is the same, I think Lois Ferdinand takes Germany into the modern era with his focus on technology, likely far less bellicose and vain, perhaps more like how Prince Henry or Frederick II might have ruled? It is my notion that he accepts the evolution of constitutional monarchy and works well enough with the SDP that we see Germany achieve a similar "economic miracle."

You know I want a German Spaceport in East Africa so I look forward to that. My theory is that Germany has higher population density and is more urban here so more Germans emigrate and retire to the former colonies, building their middle classes and seeding more development of industry and infrastructure. I think the colonies begin to look like Florida did after the space race took off, a lot of engineers and development to support Germany's global space program. Optimistic, I hope Germany crafts a functional trade block and facilitates the path to a more peaceful and prosperous Africa.

 

[Michel Van]

German politic will not undergo that chaos at end of WW1, either the uprise of Socialist and Communist like OTL
Here the Germans win WW1, so it's Political structure & dynamics remains largely the same,
Except that's Reichstag get new members of the Deutschösterreich and there political Parties
and the inaugurate Social reforms, Emperor Wilhelm II had promised

For the Rest is "business as usual" forming coalitions, transforming or splitting Parties
like the Deutsche Zentrumspartei or Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands and Deutschkonservative Partei also Deutsche Volkspartei etc
If one day the CDU exist and can survive next the Catholic Deutsche Zentrumspartei is another question.
while the German Communist looking or visiting there colleagues in USSR, the fate of Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebrecht will be different in this TL

on Post WW1 France,
It will be more of a Weimar Republic !
weak President, divided political fractions and Single-issue politics parties of pro-anti-Semitism, WW1 veterans, victims of inflation, united Farmers and Party of the french bourgeoisie...
That's what Imperial Germany wants, a France occupy themselves with internal political chaos and not meddling in German Affairs.
Sadly Germany will learn on hard way this was tremendous mistake in 1941 and After ww2 they will deal with that problem once and for all.


Belgium and Luxemburg in this TL

Luxemburg will be incorporated as State into Empire and duke Family incorporated in German aristocracies, ruled by the Emperor in Berlin.
if there territory is modify is unclear there were so much proposals,
i stick to plan that Belgium on east bank of river Meuse (Maas) are annex by German Empire
And Luxemburg expand to West, while province of Liege is cut in two and east part goes to Prussia

Rest of Belgium westbound on map, were French "Department Nord" and "Pas-de-Calais" incorporated.
This cut off France from it Nord industrial & coal area now united with Walloon industrial belt
Political is Belgium very complicated
the Belgian made extrem complicated for German Military to occupying the Kingdom.
it's a complex story: in short, the ruling Walloons were fighting against German Empire, while former oppressed Flemish cooperate with Germans.
already in 1917 the German Commanding Office of Belgium start federalization of Kingdom, to deal better with this situation.
I have not quite figure out about Belgium after 1917 Treaty of Depanne

I guess that the OHL and Politician, would divide Belgium into Two nations to solve the problems finally.
- The Protectorate of Flanders with part of french department of Nord (it's has Flemish speaking population)
- The Tribute state of Walloon with french department of Nord and Pas-de-Calais (combining french/Belgium Industrial Area and Coal source into large one, under one Nation).

This could be a Federal state under Kingdom of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld, either by young Leopold III under German regent or by members of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha as new kings
Depend were is Leopold III is in 1917 as Treaty of Depanne is signed, if he is in Oxford, he could be grounded by the British...

 

[MichaelWest]

Very interesting stuff, I enjoy pondering your lines of thought, I hope my own are good fuel for thought. Are you going to detail out the immediate post-war era? Extend to the future? Sketch out modern day?

 

[Michel Van]

Very interesting stuff, I enjoy pondering your lines of thought, I hope my own are good fuel for thought. Are you going to detail out the immediate post-war era? Extend to the future? Sketch out modern day?

Current state on this TL since October 2015: Work in progress
Synopse, Chronology and Notes is a Page file of 8928 words
Covering Time roughly from 1917 to 2017.

Final project will feature, Stories, Essays, Biographies, Graphics and Data.
Focusing on History, Culture, Art & Media, technology of German Empire after 1917 on.
presented in over hundert posts over time period of 3 years , my estimation

 

[Michel Van]

I found additional information in library

Leopold III was during 1917-1919 in De Panne, That city was capital of free Belgium during ww1
So as Belgium Government surrender to General field marshal Rupprecht in 1917, They got also the royal family
the Germans will force king Albert to abdicate (because his refusal to let Germans troops true Belgium into France in 1914)
and put 16 year old Leopold III on throne of Federal Belgium and as regent Ludwig Freiherr von Falkenhausen (governor-general of the General Governorate of Belgium)
until 1922 wenn Leopold get 21 years and after Belgium law attain his full age to rule

 

[Michel Van]

Update on TL project:

I working now on Details like MP18 introduction and German answer to Tanks
let's face it A7V came to late and "LK II" was unusable for it's task
interesting is this Picture i found in german Bundesarchiv (via Wikipedia).

German vehicle repairshop for captured british tanks, run by a bavarian unit. near Charleroi, picture from 1917
so why not use british and french tanks for main German battle of 1917&1918 ?
and if they conquer Calais there find shipment of British Tanks

Also working on Map that show Europe after 1920 and 1947, under what they had in Mind and take most logical conclusion for this TL.
and i figure out what role Mussolini gone play in TL, let say Italy got interesting future !

Special thanks to AH Member Gukpard
He gave me allot interesting facts about German influence in South America, special in Brazil and Chile
what i will use for 1960s to 1980s in this Timeline.

 

[Kingfish Chris]

My Scenario for Kaiserreich Part 1ish

So what if in the events of Kaiserreich that Fascism still exists instead of National Populism. Mussolini still forms the Italian National Fascist Party and takes over Italy, however France and Britain still see a Syndicalist Revolution. Stalin is killed in the Russian Civil War where Trotsky takes over the Soviet Union after the death of the Lenin. In Spain there is a four-way civil war. Here’s what I have so far:

Fascist Italy:
Italian Empire
Italian Social Republic [National Focus: Establish the Fascist Republic]
Greater Italian Republic [National Focus: Strengthen the Fascist Republic]
Mussolini and the Italian National Fascist Party rise to power in 1924 after the Entente defeat as a result of the Imperial German Victory.

• Military Land Doctrine: Mobile Warfare
• Military National Focus:

1. Mobile Army – Reduces research time for Mobile Warfare.
2. Reform the Arditi – Unlocks New Infantry Units: Shock Troops and Strike Troops
3. Fascist Firepower – Improves Soft Attack and Hard Attack
4. Modernized Army – Reduces research time for Military Technology
5. Mechanized Army – Reduces research time for Motorized/Mechanized Vehicles and Tanks.
6. African Colonial Army – Allows for recruiting more manpower in Africa.

• Decision to create a Fascist Republic i.e. Get rid of the Italian Monarchy.

1. National Focus: Establish the Fascist Republic

• Description: Ever since our Fascist Party has taken power for too long the Savoy Monarchy have obstructed our goals of an ideal Fascist State. We must return to our Fascism’s Republican roots so we can achieve our ideal Fascist State against the bourgeois Savoy Monarchy.
• Outcomes: King Emmanuel is removed from power – The Formation of the Italian Social Republic. – [+5% Fascist Popularity]
• Warning: Poor National Unity and/or Poor Party popularity can lead to Civil War with Monarchists.

1. National Focus: Strengthen the Fascist Republic
   1. Description: Getting rid of King Emmanuel is not enough, we need to get rid of the Aristocracy whom still hinder our goals of an Ideal Fascist State.
   2. Result: Formation of the Greater Italian Republic. – [+5% Fascist Popularity, -5% Monarchist Popularity daily.]

• National Focus:
  • Military Intelligence Service
  • OVRA Secret Police Force – [-5% Syndicalist Popularity, -5% Communist Popularity, -5% Monarchist Popularity, -5% Democratic Popularity daily.]
  • Futurism – Reduces research time for Engineering and Industry
  • Neo-Classical Art – [+5 National Unity]
  • Third Position Alliance
    • Italian Military Intervention in Spain (Mutually Exclusive with Support Fascist Struggle in Spain)
    • Support the Fascist Struggle in Spain (Mutually Exclusive with Italian Military Intervention in Spain)
    • Befriend the Romanian National Legionary State
    • Fund the Austro-Fascists in Austro-Hungary
    • Greco-Roman Empire (Supporting the Metaxas Party and Regime)
    • Aiding the Republic of China and the Blueshirt Society
    • Fascist International – [+5 Fascist Popularity Worldwide]

Also China is divided between various Republics, examples include:

• Republic of China
• Chinese Soviet Republic
• Beiyang Republic
• Fengtian Republic

Spain

• A Four-Way Spanish Civil War
  • Spanish Falange (Fascist) is lead by Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera [Supported by Fascist Italy]
  • Spanish Confederation of Autonomous Right-wing Groups (Monarchist) lead by Francesco Franco [Supported by Imperial Germany]
  • Syndicalist Union (Syndicalist) is lead by Buenaventura Durruti [Supported by the Communal France and Unionist Britain]
  • Republicans (Communists) is lead by Jose Diaz [Supported by the Trotskyist Soviet Union]

• A Fascist Spain
  • After Falange (Fascist) victory, the Spanish Falange Republic is formed.
  • National Focus:
    • Italian Advisors (Military)
    • Fascist National Syndicalism (Economy)
    • Support our Fascist Comrades in South America (Ideology Popularity)
      • Form an Alliance with our South American Allies.

 

[Michel Van]

WOW

Impressive list, AZNMAGICMAN
And partly also my list for those nations in this TL
but with different outcome in my TL

 

[Kingfish Chris]

The Italian Fascist Military adopts Mobile Warfare as their Army Land Doctrine. Since the Fascist Ideology in a way wanted change, the Italian Military felt they needed reform thus seeing how bad and catastrophic the tactics of ww1 were, they wanted something better. As of inter-war technology on tanks had matured which as well saw many of the old tactics outdated, the Italian Military had sought new Army Tactics. The Fascists seeing the changing atmosphere of warfare wanted their tactics to have something to do with Speed and Manuevering. With the Fascist Industrialism in Italy it saw motorization and mechanization of the Italian Military, thus adopted was Mobile Warfare. Mussolini had placed Giovanni Messe whom is a Panzer Leader as leader of a Italy's Mobile Warfare Doctrine, this would make him the Rommel of Italy. This is done considering how Sorelian France and Unionist Britian are at Fascist Italy's doorstep.

In terms of Italian Mobile Warfare, Giovanne Messe had created the Fulmine Strategy, a tactic where an attacking force was spearheaded by a heavy concentration of tanks, armoured vehicles and mechanized/motorized Infantry supported by aircraft. Thus the combined force of tanks, armoured vehicles and mobile infantry would penetrate the enemy through fast, short and powerful attacks which would lead to defenders being disorganized. However meanwhile in Imperial Germany, the Germans while rivals with Fascist Italy, they too were more concerned with the Syndicalist threat. Thus like Italy they too used Mobile Warfare and their military had adopted a tactic similar to Fulmine called Blitzkrieg which is argued by the Italian Fascists to have been copied by Imperial German Bourgeious.

That and when the Fascists got into power in 1924, they never botherwe appeasing the Monarchy and instead tryied to further their goals of an ideal Italian Fascist Republic with a plot to remove the Savoy Crown. Under Fascist rule, Italy also sees significant Industrialization with Southern Italy being largely rule and agrarian. Thus Industrialization begins where people in Southern Italy find work. As well with the establishment of the OVRA, the OVRA Secret Police purge Mafia Elements as a part of efforts to encourage Southern Italians to work in the factories of growing industrialization and to turn them away from Crime.

Also here's the Flags of Fascist Italy
Italian Empire

Italian Social Republic [National Focus: Overthrow the Monarchy and establish the Fascist Republic]

Greater Italian Republic [National Focus: Strengthen the Fascist Republic]

As of 1936 where the events start off, the Italian Fascist Military is a First-Rate Military Force and perhaps is the fourth largest military in the world.

Italian National Republic Armed Forces

• Italian National Republic Army
  • Italian National Republic Army Special Forces
    • Italian Army Rapid Response Forces
    • Italian Army Strike Forces
    • Italian Army Assault Recon Groups
  • Italian National Republic Army Colonial Forces
    • Italian Ethiopian Colonial Defense Force
    • Italian Libyan Colonial Garrison Force
    • Italian Somalian Colonial Army Force
  • Italian National Republic Foreign Legion
    • Mobile Autonomus Legion
    • Italian Volunteer Corps
• Italian National Republic Guard
• Italian National Republic Navy
• Italian National Republic Air Force
• Italian Republican Police Corps
  • Republican Police Special Unit
  • Special Inspectorate Anti-Partisan Police
  • Police Arditi Legion
  • Italian African Colonial Police Force
• Military Intelligence Services
  • Public Securities Corp
  • Special Services Unit

Part 2

Conflicts in Kaiserreich as of 1936 (When the Game starts)
Italian Invasion of Abysinnia

• Italian Empire
• Abysinnian Empire

Spanish Civil War

• Spanish Falange (Fascist)
• Spanish Confederation of Right-Wing Groups (Monarchist)
• Syndicalist Unions (Syndicalist)
• Republicans (Communist)

Chinese Civil War

• Republic of China
• Beiyang Republic
• Fengtian Republic & Japanese Empire
• Chinese Soviet Republic

Conflicts triggered by National Focus/Events
Second American Civil War (Event caused by Political and Civil Unrest)

• United States of America (Democratic)
• Combined Syndicates of America (Syndicalist)
• General Fascist Party of America & American National Unionist Party (Fascist)
• Communist Party of the United States (Communist)
• Pacific States of America (Democratic)*

* Neutral

Third American Civil War (Choice: Can be caused by refusing a merger with the Two Fascist Parties)

• General Fascist Party of America (Huey Long)
• National Unionist Party (William Dudley Pelley)

Fascist Uprisings of Austro-Hungary (Italian National Focus: Support the Austro-Fascists and the Hungarian Arrow Cross)

• Austrian Fatherland Front & Hungarian Arrow Cross Party (Fascist)
• Austro-Hungarian Empire (Monarchist)

French Border Skirmish (Caused by Fascist, Monarchist or Communist victory in the Spanish Civil War)

• French Communal Republic

Spain:​

• Spanish Falange Republic (Fascist Victory)
• Spanish Kingdom (Monarchist Victory)
• Workers Republic of Spain (Communist Victory)

 

[rommel12]

I would be interesting about Italy to be more powerful but I have some doubts, the Italian economy was not good in the otl and here Italy lost the war then should pay reparations war to Germany and pay their debts to the British.

 

[Kingfish Chris]

I would be interesting about Italy to be more powerful but I have some doubts, the Italian economy was not good in the otl and here Italy lost the war then should pay reparations war to Germany and pay their debts to the British.

But with the Fascist Revolution in Kaiserreich, let's say the Italian Fascists improve their economy as well like Germany OTL that and the oil from Libya, however due to Fascist Revolution they don't pay reparations just like what happened after the Syndicalists took over France and Britain.

 

[Michel Van]

I would be interesting about Italy to be more powerful but I have some doubts, the Italian economy was not good in the otl and here Italy lost the war then should pay reparations war to Germany and pay their debts to the British.

I have same issues with that, but in my scenario Italy economy is better shape as OTL, thanks to Idea one of Mussolini men had in 1930s, "Italiani, avete bisogno in Italia" (i hope it's correct translation for "Italians, you needed in Italy")

 

[lukedalton]

I have same issues with that, but in my scenario Italy economy is better shape as OTL, thanks to Idea one of Mussolini men had in 1930s, "Italiani, avete bisogno in Italia" (i hope it's correct translation for "Italians, you needed in Italy")

It's more 'Italiani, siete necessari in Italia'

 

[Michel Van]

thanks, lukedalton