What if the July 20 Plot has gone successfully, and Hitler is assassinated? What would have happened? How would Operation Valkyrie be carried out?
What if the July 20 Plot has gone successfully, and Hitler is assassinated? What would have happened? How would Operation Valkyrie be carried out?
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What if the July 20 Plot has gone successfully, and Hitler is assassinated? What would have happened? How would Operation Valkyrie be carried out?
we have discussed this numerous times in depth
standard bw response
the plotters where too disorganized to seriously take control of the government even if they killed hitler; and would be ripe targets for a counter coup run by guderian whom would delight in shooting beck and friends
It pretty much is.
However DrTron's been here for over a year, at least several of these threads have popped up in that time including one rather enjoyable TL.
You;ve been watching too many Tom Cruise movies, even in the unlikely scenario they take command of the government, neither Stalin nor FDR was willing to sign a seperate peace deal, which is all they could hope for at that time.
Alright. But what is the effect of a successful Hitler assassination?
we have discussed this numerous times in depth
standard bw response
the plotters where too disorganized to seriously take control of the government even if they killed hitler; and would be ripe targets for a counter coup run by guderian whom would delight in shooting beck and friends
by guderian? i never heard about that.... Why guderian?
I always thought the SS would take over, or the Gestapo. Thus Himmler or Göring becomes fuhrer. Goebbels won't have himself arrested either. Nor Bormann. Maybe arrested for a moment, then released again after a few calls.
the remainder of the war gets run by Guderian, nobody wants to make peace; holocaust is reduced in scale, iron curtain doesn't get to go so far west; otherwise we merge with something very close to otl
I doubt Guderian could be signifiacntly more successful in holding the Soviets back, not at this stage in the game.
But what would happen to the SS (which, for the record, entails the entire police as well as a big part of the government of occupied territories)? Surely, they'd scramble for power as well as the NSDAP, and I don't see how Guderian alone could run the Third Reich, with all it's assets.the remainder of the war gets run by Guderian, nobody wants to make peace; holocaust is reduced in scale, iron curtain doesn't get to go so far west; otherwise we merge with something very close to otl
he would committ what panzers there where to fight in the east and not mindlessly waste them west of the rhine
But what would happen to the SS (which, for the record, entails the entire police as well as a big part of the government of occupied territories)? Surely, they'd scramble for power as well as the NSDAP, and I don't see how Guderian alone could run the Third Reich, with all it's assets.
that is combined with a less opposed western advanceYes and the Soviet advance probably is slower, but not critically so.
Works for me:It pretty much is.
Warning: If anyone says compromise peace I shall go postal.