Sicarius Sanguinius
Banned
I am going to cynical myself. There is no guarantee for any child born, that he will make it to adulthood, Darwin is more than just genes.
Point? I mean strictly on the topic. What is the connection between Joe and John aside from Nurture vs. Nature?
And again what has this to do with the central topic? I could drag Mary Todd Lincoln and Honest Abe and discuss their marital difficulties and it would lack the same relevance to the difference between Joe and John as leaders.
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I think I see your thesis; now. YMMV and it should, because I reject it.
I argue that it is a combination of circumstance, opportunity and learned experience that will shape a great and good man from the average run of the mill political leader hack. I cannot see Lincoln (which I brought for this very purpose.) or FDR becoming the great men they did without the independent humanizing experiences that they endured and learned when Lincoln saw his fellow men enslaved, or when FDR was struck down by polio. Or when Kennedy had to save his crew through no fault of his own, because his NAVY taught him that an officer looks after his men FIRST.
There is just too much data that shows great good men never stop learning through the combination of curiosity, empathy and will to accept the truth rather than delude themselves. I think John had that in HIM and that was something HE put there.
I call it "internalization".
McP.
I'm afraid I'm too tired to explain myself further, I have had the ideas for a while though so know what I'm talking about. You'll have to do my with original explanations as I have excuse myself.