Johnn, Prince of Asturias and Philip the Fair have their fates switched

As title says, reverse of OTL situation happens: Philip the fair, son of HRE Maximilian I dies in October 1497, few months later his wife Joanna of Castile gives birth to stillborn daughter, meanwhile Joanna's brother John, Prince of Asturias, lives untill September 1506 and has 6 surviving children with his wife Margaret of Austria-2 sons (Ferdinand and John Jr) and 4 daughters (Isabella, Mary, Margaret, Joanna). Birthdays are roughly like the ones of OTL Joanna's and Philip's kids. So what would happen then?
Maximilian lost his only legitimate son, so he needs to remarry to save his line, he would seek for annulment of his marriage with Bianca Sforza (and being Holy Roman Emperor, should achieve his goal). Margaret is heiress of Burgundian Inheritance, thus Netherlands should go to Trastamaras (would Margaret & John move to Netherlands to rule personally? Tere is no need for them to remain in Spain as long as John's parents are alive). Joanna likely ends married to Manuel of Portugal. If Catherine is still send to England and Arthur dies like IOTL, her sitation after being widowed should improve compared to OTL (not only death of Queen Isabella could be delayed with her beloved son living longer, there is also no alternative of Eleanor of Austria as candidate for future Henry VIII's wifd to distract Tudor's attention and no Philip in Burgundy to advocate for such solution (and no Philip's spies among members of Catherine's court in England).
Habsburgs, if they would even survive in male line, are going to be weaker than IOTL without Spain and Netherlands (BTW whom would Max marry to save his bloodline? Joanna is rather impossible. Agewise Joanna's sister Maria, and Elisabeth of Poland are good candidates, followed by Elisabeth of Denmark). What would be more important for Max? Strenghtening ties with Spain or strenghtening his claims to Bohemian and Hungarian thrones?
 
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I think that the spanish getting netherlands would be somewhat problematic for John, I rather prefer that it goes to their second son.
 
Joanna is going to remarry to Manuel I in that scenario.
That is something I've proposed already in OP.

So with mother and brother of Catherine of Aragon still alive, and with no Philip the fair, could we see early marriage of CoA and Henry VIII (say in summer 1506, just after Henry's 15th birthday)?
 
That is something I've proposed already in OP.

So with mother and brother of Catherine of Aragon still alive, and with no Philip the fair, could we see early marriage of CoA and Henry VIII (say in summer 1506, just after Henry's 15th birthday)?

It's certainly not unthinkable. Would Maximilian remarry to Kasimir IV of Poland's younest daughter in this scenario? Or would he perhaps wed Maria/Giovanna of Aragon (if Juana remarries to Manuel of Portugal)?
 

krieger

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It's certainly not unthinkable. Would Maximilian remarry to Kasimir IV of Poland's younest daughter in this scenario? Or would he perhaps wed Maria/Giovanna of Aragon (if Juana remarries to Manuel of Portugal)?
I think it'd be Kasimirs youngest daughter. With Netherlands being lost Bohemia-Hungary is only hope to strenghten Habsburg's position.
 
It's certainly not unthinkable. Would Maximilian remarry to Kasimir IV of Poland's younest daughter in this scenario? Or would he perhaps wed Maria/Giovanna of Aragon (if Juana remarries to Manuel of Portugal)?
Elisabeth of Poland would give Max better leverage to claim Hungarian and Bohemian thrones. She was proposed to him IOTL but Max refused, although IOTL he had male heirs already when it happened.

Still, I'm not 100% sure if Max would preffer Elisabeth over Maria of Spain.
 

Vitruvius

Donor
What happens if the Habsburg line still fails? Does Maximilian will Austria to his Spanish Trastamara grandson or to his Bavarian Wittelsbach nephew. I would think a Wittelsbach would have a better chance being elected Emperor.
 
What happens if the Habsburg line still fails? Does Maximilian will Austria to his Spanish Trastamara grandson or to his Bavarian Wittelsbach nephew. I would think a Wittelsbach would have a better chance being elected Emperor.
His Bavarian nephew has much more chances to be accepted as new overlord of Austria
 
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