Having lived in Arizona and following the Gubernatorial Election of 2006 closely, I say she crushed her Republican challenger (Len Munsil) by a landslide. But in 2004, she had not served long enough as governor to distinguish her nationally.Napolitano got re elected by high margins so she might be enough to flip Arizona
If John Kerry wins 2004 and gets blamed for the Economic Collapse and Financial Crisis of 2007, could the United States Presidential Election of 2008 look the way the map shows it?
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Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Governor Matt Blunt (R-MO): 291 Electoral Votes
President John Kerry (D-MA)/Vice President Janet Napolitano (D-AZ): 247 Electoral Votes
I doubt it, he barely had a mandate in 2004 OTL and still pushed it, and having despite not having any mandate after 2000, he still pushed a $1.3 trillion tax cut and his education plan through.Might a tied race weaken Bush's claim to a mandate to the point where he doesn't try to partially privatize Social Security?
I'd flip Iowa and New Mexico to Romney and maybe Wisconsin as well, giving Romney 313 EVs, to Kerry's 225 Evs.If John Kerry wins 2004 and gets blamed for the Economic Collapse and Financial Crisis of 2007, could the United States Presidential Election of 2008 look the way the map shows it?
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Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Governor Matt Blunt (R-MO): 291 Electoral Votes
President John Kerry (D-MA)/Vice President Janet Napolitano (D-AZ): 247 Electoral Votes
I'd flip Iowa and New Mexico to Romney and maybe Wisconsin as well, giving Romney 313 EVs, to Kerry's 225 Evs.
I guess in 2012 we see Obama, Sanders, Napolitano, Biden and Clinton all competing for the Democratic Nomination then if Romney beats Kerry in 2008
I'd flip Iowa and New Mexico to Romney and maybe Wisconsin as well, giving Romney 313 EVs, to Kerry's 225 Evs.
I'd say Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, and ME-02 would go red too.
I guess in 2012 we see Obama, Sanders, Napolitano, Biden and Clinton all competing for the Democratic Nomination then if Romney beats Kerry in 2008
Scratch Sanders, throw in Chris Dodd or John Edwards, maybe. I think the Move On wing of the party would fall in behind Obama, so no openings for someone farther left.
Democratic Party presidential candidates, 2012:
[1] President John Kerry nominated Senator John Edwards of North Carolina as his Attorney General.
- Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)
- Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY)
- Senator Joe Biden (D-DE)
- Former Senator Christopher Dodd (D-CT)
- Former Attorney General John Edwards (D-NC) [1]
- Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)
- Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) [2]
- Former Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack (D-IA) [3]
- Governor Martin O'Malley (D-MD)
- Senator Jim Webb (D-VA)
[2] Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana was re-elected to the United States Senate in 2010. Withdrew before the primary elections. Became a finalist on Senator Hillary Clinton of New York's shortlist of Vice Presidential nominees.
[3] President Kerry nominated Governor Tom Vilsack of Iowa as his Secretary of Agriculture. Like Bayh, withdrew before the primary elections and became a finalist on Clinton's shortlist.
Former Senator Mike Gravel of Alaska was speculated, however, he was seen as too old and and his tenure as Senator too far removed/irrelevant. Former Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico was also speculated, however, he was weighed down by too much baggage while governor.
Potential Vice Presidential Nominees:
- Senator Joe Biden (D-DE)
- Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)
- Former Governor Tim Kaine (D-VA)
- Governor Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)
- Senator Mark Warner (D-VA)
The Democratic nominee could be either Clinton or Obama, but the only reason I mentioned Bayh and Vilsack "making her shortlist" is because I was explaining what happened to them after dropping out and why they would be seen campaigning with Clinton in their homestates. If she won the nomination, she probably would select Bayh or Vilsack as her vice presidential nominee. Obama would probably select Mark Warner or Tim Kaine because Biden would be too old in 2012 and if Obama is re-elected in 2010, he wouldn't be the same one-term senator we saw in OTL 2008.So you see Clinton trumping Obama to take on Romney?
I guess that means we would have to wait til 2012 to get healthcare maybe?
There's a chance Kerry would take a crack at it. Without Obama's massive Congressional majorities, though, it would almost certainly fail. Odds are we'd still not have it by 2016.
What if Romney tried to pass Romneycare?