Does not have to be named the John Birch Society or have ties to it.
Could there be John Birch societies (Anti-communist, right wing to far-right) organizations in different countries
For example, most countries have laws that make labor unions more difficult.Is this a DBWI? . . .
The John Birch Society is an advocacy group, not a political party, and I doubt the CDU would have very much in common with them.If you've found a political party with 'conservative' or 'christian' in its official name, that's usually it.
The John Birch Society is an advocacy group, not a political party.
A political party organizes and supports candidates for elected offices. The JBS always advocated for or against candidates from established parties and did not run candidates of their own. Therefore, they were not a political party.Oh.
I'm sure you could explain the difference.
A political party organizes and supports candidates for elected offices. The JBS always advocated for or against candidates from established parties and did not run candidates of their own. Therefore, they were not a political party.
The fact that the JBS only supports candidates from one political party doesn't mean that it is a political party in its own right. Groups like Citizens United and MoveOn.org only contribute to political candidates from one of the major parties, and they are not political parties in their own right.That was only because when it was founded there were a few far-right Democrats (mostly from the South) as well as Republicans. But that was soon to change, and since the 1980's the JBS has supported very, very few Democrats (Larry McDonald https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_McDonald was AFAIK the last significant one). For the past few decades, the Birchers have in effect simply been a far-right anti-"globalist" group within the Republican Party.
The fact that the JBS only supports candidates from one political party doesn't mean that it is a political party in its own right. Groups like Citizens United and MoveOn.org only contribute to political candidates from one of the major parties, and they are not political parties in their own right.
If we are talking about organizations like the JBS (a right-wing advocacy group), then we are not talking about right-wing political parties. A JBS-like group could become a political party, in which case it would no longer be a JBS-like group, or it could form an adjunct political party, in which case the JBS-like group is not a political party.I specifically said that "The US two-party hegemony and first-past-the-post electoral system force (or practically force) groups which would form independent parties in many other countries to instead form ideological groups usually working within a major party." If the US had an Australian-style political system, the Birchers might form a party like Pauline Hanson's One Nation, which in fact has been accused of copying JBS materials ("Its position on the "Agenda 21" sustainable development agreement has been taken directly from a US group called The John Birch Society..." https://www.qt.com.au/news/pauline-hansons-one-nation-ripped-text-wikipedia/3060121/)
If we are talking about organizations like the JBS (a right-wing advocacy group), then we are not talking about right-wing political parties. A JBS-like group could become a political party, in which case it would no longer be a JBS-like group, or it could form an adjunct political party, in which case the JBS-like group is not a political party.
First of all, if we already know that right-wing organizations exist, why would anybody ask if they exist. Second of all, invoking the JBS brings us into the very specific realm of right-wing political advocacy groups. Why would OP bring up the JBS if he was only asking about right-wing political parties? He even extends this by making clear to us that he is not talking strictly about foreign branches of the JBS itself.Look, I don't think the distinction between party organizations and non-party organizations was central to the original post. The poster wanted to know if there could be "Anti-communist, right wing to far-right) organizations" in other countries, and I replied that there already were, sometimes taking the form of parties, sometimes not. As I understood the original post, it was simply about whether there could be organizations outside the US more or less sharing the JBS *ideology.*
First of all, if we already know that right-wing organizations exist, why would anybody ask if they exist. Second of all, invoking the JBS brings us into the very specific realm of right-wing political advocacy groups. Why would OP bring up the JBS if he was only asking about right-wing political parties? He even extends this by making clear to us that he is not talking strictly about foreign branches of the JBS itself.
Yep. I know too much about it, because one of my parents' good friends was involved with them when I was a teenager. They're now claiming that both US political parties - as well as the European Union - are controlled by "the Insiders," a group that's trying to implement a world government under their control. They vehemently oppose NAFTA, want the federal government cut back to its c. 1820 powers, and supported the Ron Paul campaign in 2008.Weren't the John Birch society a group of conspiratards who accused random things like the UN of being controlled by communists...
I even heard they once claimed that President Eisenhower was a commie.