hey, all. ive been pondering one aspect of my ATL. in the ATL, the area of OTL germany is annexed by france many years after conquest in the napoleonic wars, and the OTL british middle east are french colonies and later become independent like IOTL. (id prefer to keep how france got that way out of this discussion as its not my primary concern atm) also, WWI never becomes a world war and only involves austria and turkey vs. the balkan countries and russia late in the war (though its still brutal and on a large scale), and WWII never comes about at all.
my pondering is this: what do you all think would be the situation of jewish communities in both europe and the palestine region? ive been thinking about this particcular scenario for a while, and the main thing ive wondered about is if there would still be ghettos in europe where jews are forced to live by the 2032, or if there would be radical zionist movements (as i understand it, an independent israel was on the way no matter what, but its creation was jumpstarted because of the holocaust IOTL) as well as regular human rights protests and whatnot that would result in the dissolution of ghettos and the creation of a zionist state in or around israel (or possibly movements like that in palestine), and also if there would be ghettos similar to to those in europe elsewhere in the world, say, in america?
i'd also like to emphasize that i am NOT trying to push a pro-jewish OR an anti-semitic agenda; i just want to develop this part of my ATL and determine what is most likely in the event of no independent germany and no holocaust
my pondering is this: what do you all think would be the situation of jewish communities in both europe and the palestine region? ive been thinking about this particcular scenario for a while, and the main thing ive wondered about is if there would still be ghettos in europe where jews are forced to live by the 2032, or if there would be radical zionist movements (as i understand it, an independent israel was on the way no matter what, but its creation was jumpstarted because of the holocaust IOTL) as well as regular human rights protests and whatnot that would result in the dissolution of ghettos and the creation of a zionist state in or around israel (or possibly movements like that in palestine), and also if there would be ghettos similar to to those in europe elsewhere in the world, say, in america?
i'd also like to emphasize that i am NOT trying to push a pro-jewish OR an anti-semitic agenda; i just want to develop this part of my ATL and determine what is most likely in the event of no independent germany and no holocaust