Jesus had a twin

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This challenge will look at Jesus of Nazerath as a historical person. Now WI Mary had given birth to twins, one boy and one girl, instead of just Jesus. Would this affect the early church in any way? Plus, what would her name be?
 
There is actually a theory some Genostics held that St. Thomas was the twin brother of Jesus.

The Church would do what it did with Jesus' brothers and pretend she was a cousin. For all we know this question could be Secret History not Alternate History.

Tom
 
Tom_B said:
There is actually a theory some Genostics held that St. Thomas was the twin brother of Jesus.

The Church would do what it did with Jesus' brothers and pretend she was a cousin. For all we know this question could be Secret History not Alternate History.

Tom

Um, they really were his cousins. How could the Blessed Virgin be perpetually a virgin if she had more children? Duh.
 
This isn't going to be a 'Good Twin' vs 'Evil Twin' thread is it? How can one tell the difference when everyone wears beards?
 
Well, the question is, is Jesus's twin sister the "Daughter of God", or is she a normal girl? Or, for the historical-Jesus-existed-but-wasn't-God types, Does Jesus's twin sister preach with her brother, or does she live a normal life? The first most likely makes big changes in the Gospels, and so Christianity is changed, the second most likely changes little, and the sister is forgotten.

Aussey said:
Um, they really were his cousins. How could the Blessed Virgin be perpetually a virgin if she had more children? Duh.
When will you realize that the Roman Catholic Church is in reality an evil organization devoted to covering up random facts for no real reason? :rolleyes:
 

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Yes, Judas Thomas was considered by some traditions (not all of them "gnostic") to be Jesus' twin. In fact, the word Thomas comes from the Aramaic tawm meaning "twin." In Greek this same apostle was known as Judas Didymos (Didymos being the Greek equivalent of Thomas), aka Thomas the Doubter.

The female equivalent would be Thomah, but it is unlikely she'd be named that. She'd be more likely to have a name like Mariam, Elisabeth, Hannah, and so on. So perhaps she would be known to the early church as Mariam Thoma / Maria Didyma.

And Tom's right, they'd probably suppress any traditions relating to her as they suppressed the traditions relating to Thomas.
 
I think that Jesus and Elisabeth, the Son and Daughter of God, should preach together, and the Holy Trinity becomes more like the Cincinity:

God the Father
Mary the Mother
God the Son
God the Daughter
God the Holy Spirit.

But then would Elisabeth be crucified? I dont think they crucified women. Would the Trinity, or anything like that ever come up? This would definatley lead to Mary becoming a goddess. This also might re-instate the semi-goddess Wisdom, who ruled with and advised God that the ancient Jews believed in. A sort of polytheism, while it only being one persons could come up...
 
Jesus had at least two brothers, and at least two sisters. (At least it says sisters which means more than one so...)

His Cousin was John the Bapist. (Through his aunt Elizibeth.) Read the gospel of Jude, written by the brother of Jesus (half-brother of Jesus.)
 
Othniel said:
Jesus had at least two brothers, and at least two sisters. (At least it says sisters which means more than one so...)

His Cousin was John the Bapist. (Through his aunt Elizibeth.) Read the gospel of Jude, written by the brother of Jesus (half-brother of Jesus.)

They where either his adopted cousins, or children of Joseph's from a previous marriage.
 
Why would anybody think that Mary was perpetually a Virgin ? It doesn't make sense ! And I'm sure it doesn't say that she was in the Bible - I'm sure the Bible describes her, when it mentions her, as more or less a normal mother.

Grey Wolf
 
Aussey said:
They where either his adopted cousins, or children of Joseph's from a previous marriage.
Actually, the previous marriage comment makes sense, given the times. I believe the current opinion is that Joesph was most likely much older than Mary, and perhaps he married again after a previous wives death? This also explains away the lack of Joespeh in later stories.
 
Yeah, the Catholic tradition is that Mary was perpetually a virgin.

Which must have made the childbirth just a teense more painful...
 
DominusNovus said:
Yeah, the Catholic tradition is that Mary was perpetually a virgin.

Which must have made the childbirth just a teense more painful...

Actually the real Catholic doctrine is the Triple Virginity. Mary was a virgin before, during and after the birth of Jesus.

This is an application of the tunnel effect of quantum mechanics.

Tom
 
Tom_B said:
Actually the real Catholic doctrine is the Triple Virginity. Mary was a virgin before, during and after the birth of Jesus.

This is an application of the tunnel effect of quantum mechanics.

Tom
I thought it was an application of 'God's power'? :D
 
Actually the real doctrine is the Triple Virginity. Mary was a virgin before, during and after the birth of Jesus. This was what we call the Immaculate Conception, and a Grace of God. And she had no children afterwards.
 
Bulgaroktonos said:
Does the Bible even say that?
Catholic doctrine is not solely dependent on the Bible- Traditional ideas and such are also important. The Protestants of course, disagree ('Sola Scriptura' and all that)
 
Yeah, and the fact that there are written documents from the ancient times that were't included in the Bible or later on, the Aprocrypha
 
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