Barry Bull
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What amphibious landing forces does Japan have in the early 1990s to carry out this hypothetical operation?
I don't think the JGSDF had any formation trained in amphibious ops at that point in time.
What amphibious landing forces does Japan have in the early 1990s to carry out this hypothetical operation?
I don't think the JGSDF had any formation trained in amphibious ops at that point in time.
What amphibious landing forces does Japan have in the early 1990s to carry out this hypothetical operation?
I don't think the JGSDF had any formation trained in amphibious ops at that point in time.
Nah, man. It’s the uniforms, they grant +5 to fanboy inspiration with a 15% chance of Wehraboo Conversion on a crit.Because most people have no idea what " ORBAT/ OOB", "KM", "RN" means. They may have heard about sealion from popular media or read some popular history article and think "Cool! Never knoe that. The Germans look awesome!"
Then they find AH.com and want to about this "fabulous" idea that how can the awesome Germans land in UK.
One thing to recognize is that the standard of discussion here is much higher than mosy netizen get used to.
Given the probabilities of natural disasters I’d be horrified if Japan didn’t have at least some capability for getting in over a beach when infrastructure is unavailable, even if a contested landing is way out of scope.Since Japan consists of multiple islands and the principle transport routes between many regions are by water, it would make sense for the JGSDF to have some training in littoral operations & getting on and off a boat.
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Given the probabilities of natural disasters I’d be horrified if Japan didn’t have at least some capability for getting in over a beach when infrastructure is unavailable, even if a contested landing is way out of scope.
What coup ?This is only plausible to me if we are talking about some sort of multinational intervention. Do the US and its allies get involved, say, in supporting the legitimate Soviet government against military units loyal to coup plotters?
Would Japanese ports in Hokkaido be targeted by Soviet SCUD s from sakhalin island ?.
They did have the range but not sure how effective Japanese antimissile defences were
Several people have mentioned the pacifism of Japans citizens. I only lived there two years & had only casual contact. I did leave in 1985 with the distinct impression of the broad and deep anti militarism of the modern Japanese. The Self Defense Ground Forces officers I meet & worked with were highly professional, and as pacifistic as the rest of the population. I cannot recall any evidence of some sort of revanchist, imperialist, facisist, or other political motivation for invading anything. I can imagine there were a few with this motivation, but I never met them.
A look at the internal political discussion over the provision of a JSDF medical unit to Op DESERT DHIELD/STORM & to other humanitarian operations in the 1990s is worth a look for judging the possibility here.
Nationalism at an all time high?
1939 is on the line and would like a word.
They could be. The 'But' is the SCUD missiles were not much more than hopped up V2 weapons & about as effective for attacking targets like ports. The Iraqis fired a bunch of them at the Coalition logistics bases during The Desert Shield campaign & managed a morale victory by hitting a barracks & maiming a couple hundred US soldiers. Analysis of that particular missile attack suggests (but did not prove) the missile would have missed its target had a intercepting missile not hit it.
In the CHERRY MOUNTAIN exercise I referred to in post 43 a umpire got frustrated with the game changing firepower of the US BB New Jersey, & contrived to have a SCUD fall on it. A flurry of those had been fired at the JGSDF 5th Division. After debate & further dice rolling the umpire conclave declared the after turret on fire. She was back in action by the late afternoon tea & cookies service.
Is this a military exercise or Axis and Allies game with Cold War map chages...?
Would Japanese ports in Hokkaido be targeted by Soviet SCUD s from sakhalin island ?.
They did have the range but not sure how effective Japanese antimissile defences were
Counter amphibious assault will be a massacre for Soviets i agreeAssuming that Japanese population suddenly got posessed by spirits of 8 million fallen samurai to pull it off...
I'd expect Soviet responce to be bungled. It would probably come as a complete surprise. There would be strong words and threats, but assuming US and NATO as stated by OP clearly not involved but would if nukes are used, any actual reaction would consist of throwing several thousands of conscripted kids to die in rushed and unprepaired amphibious counter-assault. Anything else would quickly hit the fact that "We have no ships. We have no men. We have no money, too." mostly the last one as technically Pacific Fleet was fairly impressive. Soviet Union would probably implode, at least I don't see most republics giving a rat's ass about some islands far away.
So, Japanese would get their islands but completely ruin any relations with USSR/Russia for years to come and very probably alarmed everyone in East Asia to the point of possible economic sanctions.
If soviet navy attacks another major naval power like Japan rest assure they would use nukes , their vessels are not really designed for prolonged conventional conflictOther than that, the only scenario where Japan can get the Kurile islands back through force is if the Soviets invaded Hokkaido for whatever reason, only to be beaten to a pulp by the US. But such a scenario almost always entails a flurry of instant sunshine at some point, if status quo ante bellum (or best case, uti possidetis) is not enforced immediately.
Attrition amongst soviet aircraft will be high but considering Soviets have like 300 aircraft PGM equipped for strike roles in the far east (this is assuming 30 % serviceability) not counting bombers , they would be a serious threat to japanese naval forces esp since they have mostly sea sparrows and CIWS for AAWThey did have a fair number of antiaircraft missiles. How useful those might be I can't say.