WestVirginiaRebel
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WI, for whatever reason, Perry doesn't go to Japan and the country essentially stays isolated through the second half of the 19th Century? Is Roosevelt (after 1900, I know) the man who forces them out of it?
WI, for whatever reason, Perry doesn't go to Japan and the country essentially stays isolated through the second half of the 19th Century? Is Roosevelt (after 1900, I know) the man who forces them out of it?
Or at least a territory, like Hawaii or the Philippines (and wouldn't that have been ironic...)
I can't see why the Japanese would join the USA. People don't seem to make the distinction between American colonists and the rest of the world. The colonists, by and large, did yes want to form a national union and were willing to form the state system to share federal power. But other nation-states did not universally want to join this system. Remember, Hawaii joined the Union because American merchants tired of the Queen and the people, who wanted to remain their own nation, and performed a coup d'etat to impose American rule, largely to suit their own business needs. And look at what happened when the Japanese were brought out of isolation. Yes, they positively gulped down westernisation, but then they went on an annexation-fest in Manchuria and the like. Can you really see them enjoying being subservient to Washington? And can you see Washington OK-ing their vicious attack and then extreme rule in Manchuria? If Washington does, for some strange reason, OK it then you have to live with the entire USA being burdened with the blame for the Japanese' treatment of the native Chinese and Koreans, which means a whole lot of genocide accusations. I just can't see the Japanese existing within the USA. Maybe there could be some form of protectorate agreement for a while, but even that will only spur the Japanese to advance quicker so that they can declare it void due to their own newfound ability to defend themselves.
no world war 2 as well...
My point was about Japan's possible incorporation into the USA, which some of the posters above were citing as likely. Sure Japan wouldn't go on a spree if they stayed isolationist. But if they stayed isolationist they wouldn't join the USA. If they join the USA, their isolationism is forever ended, and pretty soon they are going to westernise and eye up Manchuria and the like, and then they are going to chafe under the American system. But then again, I don't think they'd even enter into any union with the USA in the first place.
World War 2 wasn't just about Japan vs America you know.
Japan will not invade korea but will be a US protectorate....
WI, for whatever reason, Perry doesn't go to Japan and the country essentially stays isolated through the second half of the 19th Century? Is Roosevelt (after 1900, I know) the man who forces them out of it?