Catherine is the daughter of a king and came with an important alliance and a very big dowry and I can not see her replaced by a minor princess like Maria of Nassau, who can be married to James (sure Catherine's father will likely accept also to marry her to James but that will lower by much the dowry)as it says on the tin, let’s say that Anne Hyde doesn’t get pregnant by james, and instead following the restoration, Charles II decides to marry his brother to Maria or Nassau what are rhe consequences of this?
Or is it more likely that Charles chooses Maria himself?
Agreed here, so Charles to Catherine and james to Maria. Otl Maria had no children, but her mother had nine children five who survived into adulthood, somperhaps she and james could have around five surviving kids also?Catherine is the daughter of a king and came with an important alliance and a very big dowry and I can not see her replaced by a minor princess like Maria of Nassau, who can be married to James (sure Catherine's father will likely accept also to marry her to James but that will lower by much the dowry)
Tbf Henrietta or England the philppe of Orléans were first cousins and they marriesd.First of all I think she would be remembered as Mary of Nassau. Second of all, I doubt any of James' and Maria's children would mary William III. I think even in the 17th century people would realise that would be a bit too much inbreeding.
The children would be almost certainly be protestant (like Mary and Anne were). So probably no Dutch invasion of England (ehm I mean glorious revolution), although James could still screw up badly enough the people would want to get rid of him.
If William III marries someone else than Mary (who wouldn't exist, so good chance), he might actualy have (male) successor, which would change Dutch history quite a bit (no consolodation of the northern and regular stadholders for example, possibly/probably no second stadholderless period).
Being first cousins is not the problem. But Willem II (brother of Maria and father of William III) was married to the sister of James II. That would mean they are cousins from each other twice.Tbf Henrietta or England the philppe of Orléans were first cousins and they marriesd.
Also true, as ur was for Louis and maria TheresaBeing first cousins is not the problem. But Willem II (brother of Maria and father of William III) was married to the sister of James II. That would mean they are cousins from each other twice.
Weddings between double first cousins or also uncle and niece happened often enough if political reasons make them convenientBeing first cousins is not the problem. But Willem II (brother of Maria and father of William III) was married to the sister of James II. That would mean they are cousins from each other twice.
This is true, though would it be necessary here? Especially if there are victories during the second anglo Dutch warWeddings between double first cousins or also uncle and niece happened often enough if political reasons make them convenient
Everything will depend from a lot of reasons...This is true, though would it be necessary here? Especially if there are victories during the second anglo Dutch war
Agreed, hence why I’m thinking of the issue beinf somehing like this:Everything will depend from a lot of reasons...
In a situation like OTL aka Charles is childless and James and Mary have only daughters the wedding of William of Orange and the eldest York girl will happen at 99% unless William is already married
If I can suggest a revised name list:Agreed, hence why I’m thinking of the issue beinf somehing like this:
Charles, duke of Cambridge born 1661
Mary of York born 1662
James duke of Kendal born 1664
Anne of York born 1667
Henry of York born 1671
I see absolutely no reason why the outcome of the Anglo-Dutch war would change, besides unforseen butterflies.Especially if there are victories during the second anglo Dutch war
Enter preparations perhaps?I see absolutely no reason why the outcome of the Anglo-Dutch war would change, besides unforseen butterflies.
Interesting why the double names?If I can suggest a revised name list:
Charles William, duke of Cambridge born 1661
Elizabeth Mary of York born 1662
James Frederick duke of Kendal born 1664
Amalia Catherine of York born 1667
Alexander Robert duke of Gloucester born 1671
Louise Henrietta of York
Girls often had them, boys the two eldest for onoring also their Dutch roots while not naming them directly after his father/brother-in-law or Maria's grandfather plus the house of Orange used often double names (see Maria's father and almost all her sibling but also many relatives had double names) so why not?Interesting why the double names?
Girls often had them, boys the two eldest for onoring also their Dutch roots while not naming them directly after his father/brother-in-law or Maria's grandfather plus the house of Orange used often double names (see Maria's father and almost all her sibling but also many relatives had double names) so why not?
France also used double names so James's mother was Henrietta Maria and two of his sisters were Mary Henrietta (the princess Royal, then princess of Orange) and Henriette Anne (the Duchesse of Orleans)
And using well double names we have less chances to make mistakes between peoples
Charles will stay childless as OTL?Ah, this is true.
So, with this in mind, potential marriages for them? I can see Charles II looking perhaps to Anne Marie of Orleans for Charles William, if he has no children himself.