James II marries Elizabeth Charlotte of the Palatine

So, this is something that I've been considering for a little while now. In 1671, Anne Hyde died without any surviving male issue, this somewhat prompted James II, as Duke of York to remarry. Now let's assume that in this scenario, either Charles II overrides his brother's desire for a Catholic wife, due to political considerations, or James himself is not a Catholic and is still an Anglican, either way his marriage to Elizabeth Charlotte of the Palatinate, is organised and the two of them marry in 1671-or later if Charles and Louis agree that Philippe, Duke of Orleans will marry someone else- what consequences would there be? Especially if Elizabeth gives birth to a son within the first few years of their marriage?

Is this realistic, or would Liz always marry the Duke of Orleans?
 

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Well, there goes the Nine-Years War.

Wasn't the Duke a widower? That's an easy way to prevent the marriage. I'm not sure about the politics of a marriage to James. Does it benefit the Palantinate?
 
Well I thibkthat was pretty impossible considering who Catholic was only the second in order of importance between James's wishes for a new wife...
Take away that requisite and you will still have the first one: "beautiful" and I do not think Liselotte satisfied that...
 
Well I thibkthat was pretty impossible considering who Catholic was only the second in order of importance between James's wishes for a new wife...
Take away that requisite and you will still have the first one: "beautiful" and I do not think Liselotte was
Well, there goes the Nine-Years War.

Wasn't the Duke a widower? That's an easy way to prevent the marriage. I'm not sure about the politics of a marriage to James. Does it benefit the Palantinate?
Yes, Orleans was married to his cousin Henriette Anne of England (Charles and James's sister) before Liselotte.
England and Paltinate can be interested in another wedding for reinforce their relationship (James and Liselotte were second cousins once removed, Liselotte's father was the older brother of Rupert of Rhine)
 
Well, there goes the Nine-Years War.

Wasn't the Duke a widower? That's an easy way to prevent the marriage. I'm not sure about the politics of a marriage to James. Does it benefit the Palantinate?
Ties to England would be beneficial, so you’d advise keeping Henrietta alive rhen?

Well I thibkthat was pretty impossible considering who Catholic was only the second in order of importance between James's wishes for a new wife...
Take away that requisite and you will still have the first one: "beautiful" and I do not think Liselotte satisfied that...
Hmm her portrait makes her look kinda pretty, though maybe I’m biased aha
 
Well I thibkthat was pretty impossible considering who Catholic was only the second in order of importance between James's wishes for a new wife...
Take away that requisite and you will still have the first one: "beautiful" and I do not think Liselotte was

Yes, Orleans was married to his cousin Henriette Anne of England (Charles and James's sister) before Liselotte.
England and Paltinate can be interested in another wedding for reinforce their relationship (James and Liselotte were second cousins once removed, Liselotte's father was the older brother of Rupert of Rhine)

So, if James were a Protestant do you think he’d be more inclined to go down this route?
 
Hmm her portrait makes her look kinda pretty, though maybe I’m biased aha

She WAS pretty according to Antonia Fraser's bio of Louis XIV. However, her liking of German sausages and beer, her pregnancies, and her penchant for hunting without a mask (to protect her skin from the sun) resulted in her ballooning waistline and skin like a lobster. Liselotte herself didn't flatter herself in her later letters ("my nose looks like a shat on carrot" and referring to her "badger-cat-monkey face"), but she was considered attractive at first (even la Montespan had something nice to say about her "charms" though she feared they'd be wasted on Monsieur).
 

Philip

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So, if James were a Protestant do you think he’d be more inclined to go down this route?

Was James set on an already Catholic wife? Liselotte converted when she married Orleans. Would this have been acceptable to James?
 
She WAS pretty according to Antonia Fraser's bio of Louis XIV. However, her liking of German sausages and beer, her pregnancies, and her penchant for hunting without a mask (to protect her skin from the sun) resulted in her ballooning waistline and skin like a lobster. Liselotte herself didn't flatter herself in her later letters ("my nose looks like a shat on carrot" and referring to her "badger-cat-monkey face"), but she was considered attractive at first (even la Montespan had something nice to say about her "charms" though she feared they'd be wasted on Monsieur).

Oh interesting, so a possible winner then for James, before she gets too fat I suppose?
Was James set on an already Catholic wife? Liselotte converted when she married Orleans. Would this have been acceptable to James?

I think so yes, though given she's a Protestant moviong to a Protestant country one might think she'd remain Protestant
 
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