James II: King of America

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by wwbgdiaslt, Jul 9, 2019.

  1. wwbgdiaslt Well-Known Member

    Feb 9, 2018
    The next two parts are provisionally done, and a lot of pieces that are put into play from the start of the timeline start to fall into place c. 1812

    When these two parts are done, we're up to 1819

    To pass the time until I post - if the Kingdom of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland were to adopt a name, not unlike Albion changing their name from the Kingdom of Virginia, what ought it to be.
  2. jennysnooper87 Proud Albish Citizen Since 2017

    Nov 27, 2016
    Los Angeles, California
    Kingdom of the Maritimes?
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  3. GenericAltHistorian The AS of B

    May 8, 2019
    Your bedroom closet
    The Kingdom of Acadia would be a nice name.
  4. wwbgdiaslt Well-Known Member

    Feb 9, 2018
    I'd imagine if New France ever goes it's own route, that they might adopt Arcadia, so Kingdom of the (United?) Maritimes, or (United) Kingdom of the Maritimes?
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  5. HonestAbe1809 Abraham Lincoln 2020

    Dec 1, 2013
    United Kingdom of the Maritimes works better.
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  6. wwbgdiaslt Well-Known Member

    Feb 9, 2018
    So ... as of the next instalment (Spoilers!) we would theoretically have ...

    Federal Kingdom of Albion
    Kingdom of New France
    Dominion of New England
    Grand Duchy of Rhode Island
    Principality of Florida
    United Kingdom of the Maritimes

    And the colonies still under the jurisdiction of the British Commonwealth!
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  7. Threadmarks: Part 8. The Treaty of the Spanish Marriages (1788 - 1807)

    wwbgdiaslt Well-Known Member

    Feb 9, 2018
    Philip came to the throne in 1788, with a wife he was somewhat estranged from, and a single son, Prince Louis (Philip Frederick) Stuart. His sister-in-law was sitting on the British throne, and the relationship between the three nations that had grown from the original colonies was largely amicable. The partnership between the Kingdom of Albion and the Dominion of New England to build a developed network of canals for trade continued, with the Grand Duchy of Rhode Island being largely unobtrusive and focusing on developing trade partnerships and it's fishing trade.

    When trouble began to brew in Britain at the point that the Prime Minister sequestered the royal family in Wales, Queen Augusta implored her sister to let her daughter and disabled sons take sanctuary in Albion. Caroline Matilda approached her husband, but Philip was hesitant to say the least and only relented after a campaign of pestering.

    Princes George and Augustus, and Princess Caroline, arrived at the Niagara Palace in 1790 and were later settled in a handsome townhouse in the nearby town. With Queen Caroline having lived at Bacon's Castle whilst Crown Princess, she took the arrival of new niece and nephews as the opportunity to place herself back into court circles alongside her husband and her now twenty year old son, Crown Prince Louis.

    Louis was not married, nor was eighteen year old Princess Caroline, so the Queen saw the possibility of a match between the two as an opportunity presented on a golden platter. Much like her own marriage contract required her to forsake her own claim to the British crown, Caroline was asked to sign a similar agreement.

    In 1791 the pair married. In Winter 1792, without any heirs, Crown Prince Louis died of pneumonia. Caroline, only twenty, was distraught, Queen Caroline became heartbroken with grief and stayed in her suite at the palace for a month. Her ladies in waiting had to almost force her to eat.

    With any further children unlikely to be produced by Philip and Caroline, the heir presumptive became Philips elderly uncle, Prince Charles, who died early the next year (1793). The claim passed to Prince Augustine Washington-Stuart, Philips cousin, who at the very least had four children of his own - Augustine, Charles, James and Margaret (who would be created as Princes and Princess upon their father's accession).

    After an appropriate period of mourning, the widowed Princess Caroline was married to Benedict Calvert III, a distant cousin of her first husband.

    Britain had calmed itself significantly but the monarchy was now largely symbolic and without power, the country now essentially a military dictatorship under Field Marshall Conway.

    Despite this, the Dowager Comtesse de St Pierre et Miquelon and her two brothers were not invited to return by their mother. This was probably a good thing because when Conway died, the family found their claim to Brunswick stripped and handed to the Prince Elector of Hanover and themselves exiled to Nova Scotia and Newfoundland.

    The Kingdom of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland, the Federal Kingdom of Albion, the Grand Duchy of Rhode Island and the Dominion of New England then received news that the French King had died, and his uncle ruled as Louis Xavier. But no sooner had he been crowned, then the newly declared British Commonwealth decided to secure the English Channel by invading Northern France.

    A few months later, New France was made its own kingdom and Charles Antoine, Duke of Guise was made its King. Whilst the invasion of France, the beheading of Louis Xavier and the Dauphin, and the installation of Louis Joseph as a puppet King, was worrying, the flexing of muscle by the Commonwealth was on the opposite side of the ocean.

    More worrying was the creation of the Kingdom of New France, given it would constitute the largest political entity in America. Also, Charles Antoine was young and might be easily influenced by the military leaders who accompanied him, rather than the Governors with whom, Albion, New England and Rhode Island had held simple diplomatic relations.

    Philip approached the Executive Council about holding peace talks with the four other nation states and therefore in 1802, representatives of King Philip, Stateholder Archibald Hamilton, Grand Duke Albert of Rhode Island, Queen Augusta of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and King Charles Antoine of New France met in St Augustine in the Spanish held colony of Florida to discuss borders and continental cooperation, the conference was hosted by the fifty year old Prince Gabriel, Count of Molina, brother of the King of Spain. Intelligent, hard working and multilingual, the Count of Molina earned the respect of his guests and their entourages.

    With a drawn out discussion and several compromises, the map of America was put together.

    As part of the conference, several marriage agreements were made.

    Princess Ana Victoria of Molina would marry King Charles Antoine of New France, whilst her sister Princess Maria Carlotta would marry to Augustine Washington-Stuart, the son of Philips heir presumptive. This meant Spain would be, for the next generation at least, neutral territory and responsible for the peace in America.

    Albion and New England sought territory to give them access to the Mississippi basin or the Great Lakes, whilst Nova Scotia and New Foundland sought Prince Edward Island and a handful of other New France holdings. Rhode Island simply sought a treaty that gave them protection, the small army that Albert had procured and which had been supplemented by soldiers from Brunswick still sat unwelcomely with the Rhode Island populace.

    For his part in smoothing territorial and trade issues in America, Prince Gabriel was given the title of Prince of Florida. A much more prestigious honorific than a simply Countship that he previously held.

    Two years later in 1804, Archibald Hamilton died, causing a search for a new Stateholder in New England. Despite having a son, long believed to be his likely successor, the State Council voted to accept Ludwig of Baden-Durlach, marries to Hamilton's daughter and son of the previous Stateholder, as the new Stateholder. He was now in his thirties, more attractive as a candidate than he had been near twenty years earlier. His appointment began a tradition that the role of Stateholder would alternate between members of the Baden-Durlach line, and the Hamilton family.

    The big question to follow the meeting in St Augustine was what should happen to the former British territories in Canada not ruled by Queen Augusta. Those that were officially under the jurisdiction of the Hudson's Bay Company and therefore still owned by the Anglo-French Commonwealth on the other side of the ocean. This allowed the countries of New Europe (America had started to fall out of favour) to develop a rough trading relationship with the dictatorship even though the Commonwealth was fond of subtle threats of military actions. But these were actions deemed possible for the past several years and never acted upon, with the Commonwealth instead choosing to solidify its hold in Europe.

    Despite the sabre rattling, the military action did not come. At least, not before Philip died in 1807, with his cousin, Prince Augustine, becoming King.
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  8. Icedaemon Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2016
    Hmm. Britain looks to be going the path of Napoleonic France, of seeming to be an unstoppable powerhouse for a while. However, with the royal family ousted by a military coup rather than a popular movement, and the precedent set by Cromwell's Commonwealth ending in the restoration of the monarchy, it does seem that when cooler heads prevail, a member of a prior royal family will be invited back, unless there is a successful uprising or new coup against the military dictatorship led by the scion of one of the major noble families.

    EDIT: To clarify the last sentence - the most probable way for the monarchy not to be restored is a new monarchy, led by a member of an established noble family successfully taking over from the military dictator and establishing themselves as the new monarch, with said new monarch at least initially having absolute power.
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  9. HonestAbe1809 Abraham Lincoln 2020

    Dec 1, 2013
    What I got out of the fall of the Commonwealth was that Richard Cromwell wasn't able to fill his father's massive shoes. This can be solved simply by having the Field Marshall pick a successor who can pick up the reins successfully.

    Though I do like the idea, however unlikely, that the new Commonwealth eventually democratizes.
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  10. wwbgdiaslt Well-Known Member

    Feb 9, 2018
    In the event that a restoration occurs, I do know who (or, which line, I should say) gets the crown. But that is only should the restoration feel natural and we've got a bit of mileage yet in the Commonwealth and the Age of the Field Marshalls.
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  11. wwbgdiaslt Well-Known Member

    Feb 9, 2018
    Russia enters the arena in the next two instalments, provisionally ...

    9) The Maritime War
    10) The Birth of [Redacted]

    This will then be followed by two posts that present the lines of succession to our various American/Canadian nation states.
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  12. Threadmarks: Part 9. The Maritime War (1807 - 1813)

    wwbgdiaslt Well-Known Member

    Feb 9, 2018
    I've split the reign of King Augustine into two parts, as it became quite lengthy ...

    Prince Augustine Washington-Stuart became King at age 56, married to Jane Setchfield, daughter of an Albionaisse politician and land owner. Given that the marriage had been for love and not to build the dynasty, it was likely the most happy a marriage between the King of Albion and his consort had ever been. They had four children, Augustine Jr, Charles, James and Margaret, all of whom had now married. His eldest, in a return to political marriages, had married the eldest daughter of the Prince of Florida but at least they seemed happy and a son, Charles Washington-Stuart had been born a couple of years prior to Augustine becoming King of Albion.

    Queen Jane was an uncomplicated woman, the first Consort of Albionaisse birth, following Mary (of Modena), Margaret (of France), Teresa (of Spain) and Caroline Matilda (of Great Britain) and this small factor helped her win the admiration of her subjects, because although there was a significant difference in the social standing of her and the majority of her subjects, they still saw her as one of their own, earning her the moniker of Albion's Rose.

    Her accession as Queen Consort did mean that her father, Gordon Setchfield, had to step down from the People's Assembly as this could lead to a conflict of interest. He was instead proposed as the new Kings Speaker after a string of brief appointments following the death of George Washington eight years earlier.

    Augustine had inherited a stable crown, and good relations with his neighbours. But the Anglo-French Commonwealth was still a possible threat, and early in his reign, the Commonwealth started to supplement the soldiers at their few holdings in Canada. Newfoundland & Nova Scotia (who had retitled themselves the United Kingdom of the Maritimes), and New France were unhappy with this maneuvere, given that the holdings could be used as a staging post for an invasion of the two countries.

    Albion had tied itself to the Kingdom of the Maritimes with the second marriage of Princess Caroline, Dowager Crown Princess, to Benedict Calvert III and the marriage of the Duke of Halifax to Amelie of Baden Durlach, Augustine's niece. This meant that Augustine had a vested interest in keeping his neighbours to the north secure, and dutifully pledged the Albionaisse National Guard in the event hostilities should occur. Tensions simmered until 1812 when a three way confrontation between the Commonwealth, Rhode Island and the Maritimes.

    The Grand Duke and the Queen, both seventy five, had recognised that each kingdom could depend on fishing for a not insignificant portion of their income, and realising that cooperation in the extensive fishing grounds would be better than fishing wars, had developed a strong partnership in the ten years since the Treaty of the Spanish Marriages. With the recent military occupation of former British colonies outside Augusta's rule, this agreement was relied on by both parties more than previously as well as the mutual defence agreement with Albion.

    New Europe's not-so-secret secret weapon was the marriage between Augustine's daughter and Grand Duke Vladimir Ivanovich of Russia. He was the younger brother of Tsar Konstantin I, uncle to Konstantin's three children including the tsarovich, Nicholas Konstantinovich. At one point, there was a possibility that Vladimir would find himself Governor of Poland, but Konstantin appointed their younger sibling, Grand Duke Michael instead.

    This political marriage had never been taken advantage of, until the fateful day in 1812 that Commonwealth fishing boats accused Rhode Island fishing boats of laying nets in Commonwealth waters. The Rhode Island ships were, as far as they were aware, fishing in Maritime waters, as per the agreement between Grand Duke Albert and Queen Augusta. The Commonwealth disagreed, and a confrontation occurred - quite why a Commonwealth fishing vessel was armed with canons is another question that we may never know the answer to. The Commonwealth fishermen boarded the Rhode Island vessel, took the crew hostage and escorted the ship to a Commonwealth port.

    Rhode Island demanded the safe return of their ship and citizens, the Maritimes demanded to know why the Commonwealth was trespassing in their territorial waters. King Augustine held his breath, with a strong feeling of where this was heading, he requested the National Guard to be ready for deployment to their northern neighbours.

    Stateholder Ludwig of New England was not one to let the Albionaisse take all of the glory, let alone put his sister's future nation in peril, and similarly marshalled the Dominion Militia to support Rhode Island and the Maritimes.

    Sixty years earlier, the War for New England had been two battles and much civil unrest, with a King who had been coerced into a conflict by unwise advisors. This was different, this was war - and as the Commonwealth refused to release the Rhode Island fishermen, the St Augustine Treaty countries gathered under the overall command of Grand Duke Vladimir.

    After two months holding their breath, the spark hit the kindling and the War began. News reached Niagara, Providence and Halifax that a fisherman from Rhode Island had claimed they had known that they were trespassing in Commonwealth waters, and had done do under orders from Queen Augusta. Upon admission of guilt, the fisherman had been executed and the Commonwealth Governor was demanding the rights to fish in the territorial waters of New Europe in return for the lives of the other fishermen.

    Grand Duke Vladimir led his soldiers into Commonwealth territories and began to occupy major population centres. The citizens themselves just wanted to be left largely to themselves, and weren't above cooperating with the invasion forces.

    In early 1813, news reached Grand Duke Vladimir on the front lines that Queen Augusta had died, and that Frederick, Duke of Halifax, was now King of the Maritimes. This did not significantly alter the conflict, but a second anf third death, less than two months later did - the death of Infante Pedro of Florida meant that his eldest sister was now heir to the principality, and the death of Prince Gabriel, the Prince of Florida, meant that Maria Carlotta, the Crown Princess of Albion, was made Princess of Florida. Albion could now exert limited influence to support the deployment of Spanish troops to the conflict with the Commonwealth.

    The reinforcement of the New European Alliance with Spanish troops allowed Grand Duke Vladimir to draw a line through Commonwealth territory, making the war one of two fronts. But with supplies and reinforcements to those Commonwealth soldiers on the Western side of the territory having to pass by the invaders, resistance began to rapidly diminish. The Eastern towns and villages were able to resupply and prooved a more difficult opponent.

    As 1813 drew to a close, the invaders had, more or less, liberated the Western regions of Commonwealth territory. But the war continued into the new year ...
  13. tus3 Well-Known Member

    Jun 6, 2016
    Belgium (AKA the Burgundian government in exile)
    I hope I'm not asking too much, but will there be a map of this conflict?
    As I have a hard time remembering who exactly owns what.
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  14. wwbgdiaslt Well-Known Member

    Feb 9, 2018
    If only were I that talented - or in possession of a computer ☹
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  15. Threadmarks: Part 10. Hudsonia (1813 - 1819)

    wwbgdiaslt Well-Known Member

    Feb 9, 2018
    If 1813 started with a series of deaths (Gabriel, Pedro and Augusta), then it ended with the countries of New Europe receiving news of the fall of a country. Although the British Commonwealth was fighting a war of attrition in those lands in America under their jurisdiction, they had pushed forward into Spain during the summer months and the nobility had fled. With few allies able to provide support, and Florida already focused on their own problems, Spain fell with surprising speed.

    Portugal was clearly the next target, but the Portuguese monarchy knew what would come and abandoned their country for the safety of their colony of Brazil. Portugal would be occupied by soldiers from the Commonwealth by 1815.

    With Spain fallen, this meant Florida was cast adrift. Much like New France, it meant the Spanish monarchy would survive in Princess Maria Carlotta. Maria Carlotta, upon receiving news of the fall of Spain declared that Florida was a sovereign principality under the rule of the House of Florida-Molina.

    The nobility who had fled Spain acquiesced to her rule, on the agreement that the Floridian crown would not fall into union with the Albionaisse, or New France. Through a series of acts by the executives of each of the three countries, this policy was agreed and Maria Carlottas second son, Prince Gabriel, created Duke of St Augustine under her father (his brother was Duke of Pensacola), was made Hereditary Prince of Florida whilst his elder brother, Charles, remained on track to claim the Albionaisse Crown in due course.

    This meant the brothers were separated, with Gabriel raised in St Augustine at the Palacio del Principio, and Charles brought up at the Niagara Palace. Maria Carlotta and the Crown Prince shared their time between both royal palaces, with Augustine becoming a trusted advisor for his wife in the same manner that he hoped she would be to him when he was crowned.

    Palacio del Principio, c. 1950, now a civic centre.

    At this point, the thrones of four nations were held, or in line to be held, by descendants of James II of Albion. Augustine was King of Albion itself, his son was Prince Consort of Florida, his grandchildren were in line for the thrones of both Florida and Albion, then Augustine's nephew was the present Stateholder of New England whilst his niece was now Queen Consort of the Maritimes.

    His grandson Nicholas Vladimirovich was even sixth in line to the Russian throne, but that was an unlikely inheritance to see come to being.

    However, Prince Nicholas' father, Grand Duke Vladimir, was still successfully leading the campaign against the Commonwealth. Having secured their western territories, the Russian turned his attention to the eastern colonies, and slowly began pushing them towards the coast, securing the Great Lakes and the Hudsons Bay. The positive about the invasion of Spain was that the Commonwealth was now fighting a war on two fronts, and struggled to provide reinforcement to the war against New Europe. If only they hadn't pushed their luck by invading a country that had managed to remain relatively neutral until now.

    This, obviously, didn't go down very well in London and their were voices of dissent against the Lord Field Marshall that even suggested inviting the royal family back. But those voices were hushed, whispered, and ultimately futile - a monarchy, perhaps, but not the former royal family? If not the former royal family, then who?

    Bernard Edward Howard, the new Duke of Norfolk, as the senior Duke left in Britain, swiftly became a voice for dissenters to rally around - Long Live, King Bernard they would chant. But the Duke of Norfolk remained silent on the matter - if the House of Howard was to sit on the throne, it would not be at the moment and it certainly wouldn't be with Bernard as his regnal name.

    The Fall of Spain and the arrival of the Spanish nobility in Florida brought with it further soldiers and ships that Princess Maria Carlotta immediately placed at the disposal of her brother in law. This enables the New European allies to effectively surround the Commonwealth troops, vastly reduce their navy and then effectively block any supply process in place to resupply and reinforce the Commonwealth force. By the Summer of 1814, things were looking bad for the British as troops began to slowly either abandon the war in totality or defect to any of the various New European countries in return for their liberty.

    Grand Duke Vladimir was only too happy to accept these defections which increased across the winter of 1814. By the start of 1815, the writing was on the wall, and the Sub Field Marshall of the Commonwealth forces, Arthur Wellesley, was forced to concede to Vladimirs demands and surrender.

    The colonies of the Commonwealth fell on July 4th 1815 with the signing of the York Accords by Wellesley and representatives from the nation's of New Europe. This relinquished any claim by the Commonwealth to their colonies, and divides the colonies between New France, and the other nations of New Europe. New Europe took the eastern portion, with initial policy that a Governor would be appointed with a Governors Council of representatives from the other nations.

    The vote was, almost unanimously, that Grand Duke Vladimir would be appointed as Governor and Head of State. The Governors Council was the defacto legislature, like the British Parliament. The York Accords also cited the name of this territory as Hudsonia.

    New Europe breathed easy for the first time in several years, whilst over in Europe, with the loss of the American colonies, the Field Marshall was doing very poorly with the people. With a promise that he would reinstate Parliament to the extent of its prior powers, he continued his rule for a handful of years.

    At which point he died. Parliament took charge and voted to appoint the Duke of Norfolk as the new Field Marshall - but soon, by his coronation in 1818, his title had become King of the British (not King of Britain).

    King "Bernard" of the House of Norfolk aka Edward VII, King of the British, Field Marshall of the Commonwealth.

    As 1818 moved into 1819, the British chanted Long Live King Bernard, of course, officially he was Edward VII. Shortly after news of his coronation and the succession of the House of Norfolk reached New Europe, King Augustine succumbed to a heart attack and was succeeded by by his son, the Crown Prince of Albion and the Prince Consort of Florida.
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  16. Threadmarks: Addendum 2. Line of Succession in Albion, c. 1819

    wwbgdiaslt Well-Known Member

    Feb 9, 2018
    Federal Kingdom of Albion
    Line of Succession c. 1819

    James I, r. 1692-1701, m. Mary of Modena,
    a) James II, r. 1701-1766, m. Margaret of France
    1) Louis I, r. 1766-1788, m. Teresa of Spain
    a) Philip I, r. 1788-1807, m. Caroline Matilda of Great Britain
    1) Crown Prince Louis, Comte de St Pierre et Miquelon, d. 1793, m. Caroline of Great Britain​
    2) Prince Charles Stuart, m. Elizabeth Washington Stuart
    a) Augustine I, r. 1807-1819, m. Jane Setchfield
    1) Augustine II, r. 1819-0000, m. Maria Carlotta, Sovereign Princess of Florida
    a) Charles, Crown Prince of Albion, Comte de St Pierre et Miquelon, Duke of Pensacola
    b) Gabriel, Hereditary Prince of Florida, Duke of Miami​
    2) Charles Washington-Stuart
    3) Margaret Washington-Stuart, m. Grand Duke Vladimir Ivanovich, Governor General of Hudsonia
    a) Nicholas Vladimirovich
    b) Catherine Vladimirovna​
    4) James Washington-Stuart, m. Sofia Calvert​
    b) Princess Elizabeth Washington-Stuart, m. William Louis of Baden Durlach, 2nd Stateholder of New England (1758-1786)
    1) Ludwig of Baden-Durlach, 4th Stateholder of New England (1804-0000), m Susan Hamilton
    a) Ludwig of Baden-Durlach
    b) Susan of Baden-Durlach
    c) Elizabeth of Baden-Durlach​
    2) Amalia of Baden-Durlach, m. Frederick, King of the Maritimes (1813-0000)
    a) Charles, Duke of Halifax
    b) Frederick, Duke of St. John
    c) Augustus, Duke of Charlottetown​
    b) Elizabeth Calvert, Princess Royal, m. Captain Charles Calvert
    1) Prince Benedict Calvert, Viceroy of New England (1755-1757) m. Sofia of Ourem
    a) Benedict Calvert II, m. Anne Caulfield
    1) Benedict Calvert III, m. Caroline of Great Britain, Dowager Crown Princess of Albion
    a) Benedict Calvert IV
    b) Caroline Calvert
    c) Anne Calvert
    d) William Calvert​
    2) Sofia Calvert, m. James Washington-Stuart​
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  17. Threadmarks: Addendum 3. Lines of Succession in New Europe, c. 1819

    wwbgdiaslt Well-Known Member

    Feb 9, 2018
    Dominion of New England
    c. 1819

    Louis Joseph, Prince of Conti was the 1st Stateholder of Rhode Island for a matter of months in 1758.

    William Louis of Baden-Durlach was then invited to take the post of Stateholder by the Great Powers following the Treaty of the Hague. Subsequent Stateholders are selected by the State Council of New England.

    1 - The Baden Durlach Line

    William Louis of Baden-Durlach, 2nd Stateholder (1758-1786), m. Elizabeth Washington-Stuart
    a) Ludwig of Baden-Durlach, 4th Stateholder (1804-0000), m. Susan Hamilton
    1) Ludwig II of Baden-Durlach
    2) Susan of Baden-Durlach
    3) Elizabeth of Baden-Durlach​
    b) Amalia of Baden-Durlach, Queen of the Maritimes, b. 1781, m. Frederick, King of the Maritimes (1813-0000)
    1) Prince Charles, Duke of Halifax
    2) Prince Frederick, Duke of St John
    3) Prince Augustus, Duke of Charlottetown​

    2 - The Hamilton Line

    Archibald Hamilton, 3rd Stateholder (1786-1804), m. Lady Harriet Stewart
    1) Archibald Hamilton II
    2) Susan Hamilton, m. Ludwig of Baden-Durlach, 4th Stateholder (1804-0000)
    a) Ludwig II of Baden-Durlach, b. 1795
    b) Susan of Baden-Durlach, b. 1797
    c) Elizabeth of Baden-Durlach, b. 1800​

    Grand Duchy of Rhode Island
    c. 1819

    The Grand Duchy of Rhode Island (fully, the Electoral Grand Duchy of Rhode Island and Providence) seceeded from the Dominion of New England and invited Albert Casimir of Saxony to be Grand Duke.

    The House of Wettin

    Albert Casimir of Saxony, r. 1758-0000, m. Victoire de Rohan
    1) Gabriel, Hereditary Grand Duke
    2) Victoire
    3) Armand​

    Kingdom of New France
    c. 1819

    Charles Antoine, Duke of Guise was made King of New France (in suzerainty) by his father, Louis Xavier, King of France prior to the fall of Greater France. It now exists as it's own kingdom, separate from Greater France which is ruled by the puppet King, Louis Joseph of the House of Condi.

    The House of Bourbon-Guise

    Charles Antoine of Bourbon-Guise, r. 1797-0000, m. Ana Victoria of Florida-Molina
    1) Charles, Dauphin of New France, Duke of Gainsville
    2) Victoria, Madame Royale
    3) Antoine, Duke of Quebec
    4) Ferdinand, Duke of Montreal​

    United Kingdom of Newfoundland & Nova Scotia, later United Kingdom of the Maritimes
    c. 1819

    Queen Augusta of Great Britain was forced to abdicate her claim to Great Britain after a military coup and accept exile to the colonies of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland (later, also Prince Edward Island, and New Brunswick).

    The colonies later take the title of the Kingdom of the Maritimes.

    The House of Brunswick-Bevern

    Augusta, r. 1795-1813, m. Charles of Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel, r. 1795-1806
    a) Frederick, r. 1813-0000, m. Amalia of Baden-Durlach
    1) Prince Charles, 2nd Duke of Halifax
    2) Prince Frederick, Duke of St John
    3) Prince Augustus, Duke of Charlottetown​
    b) Caroline, Princess Royal, m1, Louis, Crown Prince of Albion, m2, Benedict Calvert III
    2a) Benedict Calvert IV
    2b) Anne Calvert
    2c) Caroline Calvert
    2d) William Calvert​
    c) George
    d) Augustus

    Sovereign Principality of Florida
    c. 1819

    Prince Gabriel, Count of Molina, is appointed as Viceroy of Florida by his brother, the King of Spain. After his assistance with negotiating peace at the Treaty of St. Augustine, he is made Prince of Florida, and upon the fall of Spain, Florida declares itself a Sovereign Principality.

    The House of Florida-Molina

    The House of Florida-Molina is created in 1813 following the fall of Spain and the declaration of Florida as a Sovereign Principality. However, Prince Gabriel is often retroactively attributed as it's founder.

    Gabriel of Florida-Molina, Prince of Florida, Count of Molina, d. 1813
    1) Pedro, Hereditary Prince of Florida, d. 1813
    2) Maria Carlotta of Florida-Molina, Queen of Albion, Sovereign Princess of Florida, (1813-0000) m. Augustine II, King of Albion, Prince Consort of Florida
    a) Charles, Crown Prince of Albion, Comte de St Pierre et Miquelon, Duke of Pensacola
    b) Gabriel, Hereditary Prince of Florida, Duke of St Augustine​
    2) Ana Victoria of Florida-Molina, Queen of New France, m. Charles Antoine, King of New France
    a) Charles, Dauphin of New France
    b) Victoria, Madame Royale
    c) Antoine, Duke of Quebec
    d) Ferdinand, Duke of Montreal​
  18. Jacob T. Fawkes Member

    Aug 16, 2019
    I would love to see a map of the world at this point in history. It's got to look crazy.
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  19. wwbgdiaslt Well-Known Member

    Feb 9, 2018
    I wish I could - but I don't own a computer (this has all been written on my phone). I shall say that Part 11 is about to make (next weekend) things even more confusing with a period of westward expansion for the countries of New Europe.
  20. Icedaemon Well-Known Member

    Jul 5, 2016
    King of the British? Not King of the Britons?

    It does boggle the mind that this is all written on a phone, I for example prefer reading most things on this here forum from a nice big PC screen and typing out replies on a keyboard. Even when reading anything on the phone, I usually wait until I get back home to type out a full and coherent reply.
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