James II dies in 1688, what next?

I imagine the political scene with a surviving stusrt line in the throne would disrupt the Whig ascendancy
 
I imagine the political scene with a surviving stusrt line in the throne would disrupt the Whig ascendancy
If we go with Stuart/Hannover match (as in this (nice) wikibox) there is always a chance of one of the children being born with porphyria, "Mad King" and the seesaw goes down. Sophie Dorothea's aunt was a known carrier, IDK if OTL Sophie's issue got the gene for disease from her or from her husband. But for sake of simplicity let's say she is not carrier.
 
If we go with Stuart/Hannover match (as in this (nice) wikibox) there is always a chance of one of the children being born with porphyria, "Mad King" and the seesaw goes down. Sophie Dorothea's aunt was a known carrier, IDK if OTL Sophie's issue got the gene for disease from her or from her husband. But for sake of simplicity let's say she is not carrier.

Hmm true, I think too keep the see saw up for the crown, either she shouldn't carry it or James should marry someone else, whichever is more likely.
 
Hmm true, I think too keep the see saw up for the crown, either she shouldn't carry it or James should marry someone else, whichever is more likely.

Maria Amalia is still a choice for marriage, and cuts out the Hannovers, at least for right now. Maybe James III's son (which the wikibox has labelled as Charles III) can marry a Hanover if we want the craziness.

Other options are Luise Dorothea of Prussia, though she would be 8 years James's senior. If a marriage was arranged early enough though it seems possible, and the Stuart men were nothing if not fertile.
 
Maria Amalia is still a choice for marriage, and cuts out the Hannovers, at least for right now. Maybe James III's son (which the wikibox has labelled as Charles III) can marry a Hanover if we want the craziness.

Other options are Luise Dorothea of Prussia, though she would be 8 years James's senior. If a marriage was arranged early enough though it seems possible, and the Stuart men were nothing if not fertile.

Also very true, I admit Maria Amalia does bring with her a connection to the House of Orange once more, and if William is influencing things, that does seem the way things would go. With Marlborough on the council, it does seem likely that that would be a match. Does anyone know why she didn't marry otl?
 
Also very true, I admit Maria Amalia does bring with her a connection to the House of Orange once more, and if William is influencing things, that does seem the way things would go. With Marlborough on the council, it does seem likely that that would be a match. Does anyone know why she didn't marry otl?
Her father and brother untimely deaths, most likely. Her dad died when she was just 7, and her brother - when she was 22. Nobody to arrange marriage for her.
 
Her father and brother untimely deaths, most likely. Her dad died when she was just 7, and her brother - when she was 22. Nobody to arrange marriage for her.

If the marriage is arranged in her late teens, would her brother go for it? Say, 1704 or 5, when James is 16/17 and shes 15/16?
 
If the marriage is arranged in her late teens, would her brother go for it? Say, 1704 or 5, when James is 16/17 and shes 15/16?
There is a suspicion that by 1702 William TTL would have no accident with a certain molehill, and by 1704 he'll be the one arranging match for her cousin (and provide quite good of a dowry, which is also a pro).
Also, the benefit of TTL is there is no Act of Settlement so Catholic allies such as Austria and Portugal are also a go. Barbara of Portugal for the Prince of Wales (future Charles III), anyone? Especially if we go for Wittelsbach Spain TTL.
 
There is a suspicion that by 1702 William TTL would have no accident with a certain molehill, and by 1704 he'll be the one arranging match for her cousin (and provide quite good of a dowry, which is also a pro).
Also, the benefit of TTL is there is no Act of Settlement so Catholic allies such as Austria and Portugal are also a go. Barbara of Portugal for the Prince of Wales (future Charles III), anyone? Especially if we go for Wittelsbach Spain TTL.

I agree, a big dowry and having her be the Queen of the three kingdoms, a big win.

And also agree here, Barbara of Portugal is a massive bonus as well aha.

I imagine Philip Duke of Anjou in this timeline, merely remains a Prince of the blood, and a French courtier, with little need for a marriage?
 
Well, he'll likely marry the same as OTL, but as Monsieur, the brother of the King (if Le Grand Dauphin dies as OTL). At least the first wife (and the second maybe too if he's a viceroy for his father in Naples according to the Treaty of Hague, as Duchy of Parma jure uxoris is also a grab).
If he marries later than OTL, then Elisabeth Farnese may be the FIRST wife.
 
Well, he'll likely marry the same as OTL, but as Monsieur, the brother of the King (if Le Grand Dauphin dies as OTL). At least the first wife (and the second maybe too if he's a viceroy for his father in Naples according to the Treaty of Hague, as Duchy of Parma jure uxoris is also a grab).
If he marries later than OTL, then Elisabeth Farnese may be the FIRST wife.

Alright very interesting, with butterflies floating around, I do think we could see Le Grand Dauphin and Le Petit Dauphin survive in good time to become King as well.
 
Depends on context. If there is a fail like Darien Scheme, then some kind of such Act may be passed.
Alright very true. I do wonder what the dynamic between James and anne will be here. Otl she seemed to regret her actions in supporting William and Mary's usurpation
 
By the way, from wikibox it turns out that he's King since birth - maybe in this TL it's James II who has sort of unfortunate molehill accident and James III is a posthumous child?
 
By the way, from wikibox it turns out that he's King since birth - maybe in this TL it's James II who has sort of unfortunate molehill accident and James III is a posthumous child?

But then you have the problem who rules in the months or however long that James II is dead but James III isn't born.
 
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