James II defeats glorious revolution, now what?

What happens to Mary?

What happens in the Netherlands? Do they enter a new stadtholderless period?
I'm unsure, would James try to have William killed?

I think either they'd go without the stadholder or name Williams cousin as stadholder
 
I could see a shorter war, with the french early sucess and the English in the same side that the french, the Grande alliance would be easily broken, If french are in peace in 1693-1694, they could avoid a great part of the famine that killed one million and half people, also a shorter war would avoid the explosion of their debt. with the english in their side they could avoid the Battle of Barfleur and La Hougue that was a disaster for their navy.

What happens to Mary?

Charles II and James II wanted to have Marie married with a heir of the trone de france to secure the alliance with the french but the parliament refused and he accepted to marry her with Williem II but if William killed, he could try again.

I'm unsure, would James try to have William killed?

All depend of the event if he's captured alive he would not kill him, but he will forces him to sign a humiliating peace, i'm not sure that the Dutch would like him after that, after if he's killed i think that a William cousin would be corwned, they are in a war and if the dutch proclaim a republic, they would risk to scare their allies or the dutch need them to protect them against the french and the English.
 
I could see a shorter war, with the french early sucess and the English in the same side that the french, the Grande alliance would be easily broken, If french are in peace in 1693-1694, they could avoid a great part of the famine that killed one million and half people, also a shorter war would avoid the explosion of their debt. with the english in their side they could avoid the Battle of Barfleur and La Hougue that was a disaster for their navy.



Charles II and James II wanted to have Marie married with a heir of the trone de france to secure the alliance with the french but the parliament refused and he accepted to marry her with Williem II but if William killed, he could try again.



All depend of the event if he's captured alive he would not kill him, but he will forces him to sign a humiliating peace, i'm not sure that the Dutch would like him after that, after if he's killed i think that a William cousin would be corwned, they are in a war and if the dutch proclaim a republic, they would risk to scare their allies or the dutch need them to protect them against the french and the English.
Shorter nine years war would be good, something that would make things for the Spanish war easier.

Mary doesn't seem as though she can have children though so that might not happen, plus the dauphin isnakready married.

What would be more interesting, William alive or dead?
 
Mary doesn't seem as though she can have children though so that might not happen, plus the dauphin isnakready married.


If i remember Louis of France, was married with Marie-Adélaïde of Savoie, that died in 1690.


What would be more interesting, William alive or dead?

In my opinion if William is killed, because it would mean the netherland would stay in war longer, so the french will crush their opponent less easily, a longer war would also reduce the growth of the pro-french force in Europa making things more balanced, avoiding a kind of French hegemony, France will still come out strengthened, with the annexion of strategic territories and country in their orbit, like Savoy and some german principalty, ... so you will see the appartion of a new block led by the French, it would be really interesting to analyze.
 

Philip

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If i remember Louis of France, was married with Marie-Adélaïde of Savoie, that died in 1690

Maria Anna Victoria. She did die in 1690. (Marie Adelaide was married to their son, Louis le petite dauphin.)

A match between Mary and Louis (le grande) might be interesting. Louis already had three legitimate heirs. Mary has had several miscarriages. It seems destined to be a temporary marriage alliance with no heirs to complicate either dynasty down the road.

As a side note, I'm beginning to envision a timeline where marie/maria/mary comes to mean nobel female and louis nobel male. No more sir/ma'am. It's louis/marie.
 
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Philip

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Having a Stuart on the throne removes some of the motivation for the Acts of Union. Are the other motivations like Scottish merchants wanting access to English colonies enough being the Acts about?
 
Having a Stuart on the throne removes some of the motivation for the Acts of Union. Are the other motivations like Scottish merchants wanting access to English colonies enough being the Acts about?
From what I understand the union was likely going to be there at some point, Scotland might still embark on the Darien scheme and will need bailing out and the Stuart's always wanted to unire the realms
 
If i remember Louis of France, was married with Marie-Adélaïde of Savoie, that died in 1690.




In my opinion if William is killed, because it would mean the netherland would stay in war longer, so the french will crush their opponent less easily, a longer war would also reduce the growth of the pro-french force in Europa making things more balanced, avoiding a kind of French hegemony, France will still come out strengthened, with the annexion of strategic territories and country in their orbit, like Savoy and some german principalty, ... so you will see the appartion of a new block led by the French, it would be really interesting to analyze.
Interesting so a tenptoeary marriage then?

And this is true, Williams cousin didn't seem as capable as him
 

Philip

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Interesting so a tenptoeary marriage then?

The marriage would be permanent, but the alliance would be temporary. Assuming James II dies as per OTL, James Francis takes the throne in 1701. How much affection does he have for his half-sister who arguably tried to keep him from the throne?
 
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