James II defeats glorious revolution, now what?

A victory of James II, would totally change the course of the Nine Years' War.

If the armies of William are beaten and if he's killed, England would not join the war against the french, the league of Augsburg want to overthrown James II so he will likely stay in the side of Louis XIV.

James II control of the country is weak but with this victory his legitimacy is reinforced, his main action would be to harass the Denmark and Norwegian ship and trying to invade Netherland with the french help. After how would react the other power like Bavaria or Brandebourg would they join a war against the French and English that just have beaten William III, or would they stay neutral, they could even chose the french side, the death of Marshall of Luxemburg could also be butterflied, ...

The Augsburg war could turn in a disaster for the ennemies of Louis XIV. After the war in the english side James would likely stay friend with the french and his principal purpose would restore the order consolidate his control of the country, he would also try to reform and modernize his realm.

After the death of Louis of France could be butterflied, so the french history will be deeply changed.
 
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A victory of James II, would totally change the course of the Nine Years' War.

If the armies of William are beaten and if he's killed, England would not join the war against the french, the league of Augsburg want to overthrown James II so he will likely stay in the side of Louis XIV.

James II control of the country is weak but with this victory his legitimacy is reinforced, his main action would be to harass the Denmark and Norwegian ship and trying to invade Netherland with the french help. After how would react the other power like Bavaria or Brandebourg would they join a war against the French and English that just have beaten William III, or would they stay neutral, they could even chose the french side, the death of Marshall of Luxemburg could also be butterflied, ...

The Augsburg war could turn in a disaster for the ennemies of Louis XIV. After the war in the english side James would likely stay friend with the french and his principal purpose would restore the order consolidate his control of the country, he would also try to reform and modernize his realm.

After the death of Louis of France could be butterflied, so the french history will be deeply changed.
By modernising of the state how do you mean? What sort of reforms could he introduce?
 
Increase the size of the army, developping the manufacturing sector,centralize the state, impose central control of the local government, developping the surveillance system, create national instution (after i'm not an expert of the english economic policy of this period same for James II policy).
 
Increase the size of the army, developping the manufacturing sector,centralize the state, impose central control of the local government, developping the surveillance system, create national instution (after i'm not an expert of the english economic policy of this period same for James II policy).
Alright interesting. Surveillance system through the police, royal bank for fiscal policy, army I can see being enlarged
 
Interesting so control of church affairs and of domestic economic policy. I wonder if James should focus or d9ntinue on agragarisn policy or focus on manufacturing
One cannot get the Industrial Revolution without the Agricultural. So it's best to focus on agrarian policy then shift gears when appropriate.
 
One cannot get the Industrial Revolution without the Agricultural. So it's best to focus on agrarian policy then shift gears when appropriate.[/QUOTE

Agreed, new tools for better development, start during James reign and continue during his son’s lengthy reign
 

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Would you advise that the two navies not engage beforehand?

Story-wise, I would have them engage. It results inn a Dutch tactical victory but English strategic victory. The Dutch repel an English attack but loose part of the invading force. William considers aborting the invasion but concludes that he won't have another chance. He is confident that his English supporters will provide enough troops to make up the difference.
 
Story-wise, I would have them engage. It results inn a Dutch tactical victory but English strategic victory. The Dutch repel an English attack but loose part of the invading force. William considers aborting the invasion but concludes that he won't have another chance. He is confident that his English supporters will provide enough troops to make up the difference.
Alright class, they land, and then are confronted by a fresh English host commanded by James himself, or should they get to Salisbury?
 
Also i could see a great growth of trade between France and England instead of a trade war between them.

By example i could see the wine trade between them flourish instead of declining.
 
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Would that last long term?
While historically friendships between France and England lasted not long (see: the period around the Field of the Cloth of Gold), if they have a common enemy and/or the rulers have some kind of common interest in propping each other up it's definitely possible for it to be a long-lasting thing.
 
While historically friendships between France and England lasted not long (see: the period around the Field of the Cloth of Gold), if they have a common enemy and/or the rulers have some kind of common interest in propping each other up it's definitely possible for it to be a long-lasting thing.
Perhaps for James reign and then his son for a little bit
 
Wine trade, coal etc for Britain and France perhaps some trading with cloth in the new world
They might try something in the New World - once debts have been paid down for some time. Caribbean Islands might be on the table for getting split up between the two powers in the event of a successful war.
 
They might try something in the New World - once debts have been paid down for some time. Caribbean Islands might be on the table for getting split up between the two powers in the event of a successful war.
England getting Suriname back again would be a huge boost
 
England getting Suriname back again would be a huge boost
A lot of what this comes down to is money. England and France may have designs on the New World, but both might have debt, lots of debt. And every new war loads more and more debt, because war is expensive.
France under Louis XIV isn't exactly slim in its finances either...
 
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