It's all over except the shouting- A Cold War TL

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General_Finley, since Europe has been more troubled than OTL and the Communist are weaker, I think it'd be really cool to have the EDC actually implemented. All it takes is that the French Parliament votes in favour of its ratification and since that is not too far-fetched with a weakened PCF (who voted against, along with the Gaullists).
 
Just discovered this. It's great :D

General_Finley, since Europe has been more troubled than OTL and the Communist are weaker, I think it'd be really cool to have the EDC actually implemented. All it takes is that the French Parliament votes in favour of its ratification and since that is not too far-fetched with a weakened PCF (who voted against, along with the Gaullists).

The problem with the EDC though is that France still has an Empire and is rather interested in keeping it or at least keeping a sphere of influence. The EDC couldn't be used to fight the Algerian War, the Vietnam War or intervene in former French Africa. France isn't loosing the War in Vietnam ITTL, sure it isn't a colony anymore, but a nationalist Vietnamese state that is friendly to the west is giving the French hope for keeping their empire. Now the OTL treaty included a clause that allowed some troops to be excluded by the integration like colonial troops and their replacements. So France could enter enter the EDC and when the Algerian War starts to get worse they have 90% or so of their army listed as colonial troops. I'm still brainstorming and researching at the moment, so the EDC isn't out of the question.
 
The problem with the EDC though is that France still has an Empire and is rather interested in keeping it or at least keeping a sphere of influence. The EDC couldn't be used to fight the Algerian War, the Vietnam War or intervene in former French Africa. France isn't loosing the War in Vietnam ITTL, sure it isn't a colony anymore, but a nationalist Vietnamese state that is friendly to the west is giving the French hope for keeping their empire. Now the OTL treaty included a clause that allowed some troops to be excluded by the integration like colonial troops and their replacements. So France could enter enter the EDC and when the Algerian War starts to get worse they have 90% or so of their army listed as colonial troops. I'm still brainstorming and researching at the moment, so the EDC isn't out of the question.

If you speak French, the French Wikipedia article on the EDC is extremely complete and thorough, so check it out. I believe that there were many modifications to the original Pleven Plan.

Also, I read that Yugoslavia becomes a member of the ECSC? I don't think that is particularly likely, however a particularly good trade status is possible.

Lastly, what will happen with Spain and Portugal TTL? As Communism becomes a bigger problem earlier on is possible that the West reconciles with Franco's regime earlier than OTL and forces him to quickly change his economic policy?
 
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If you speak French, the French Wikipedia article on the EDC is extremely complete and thorough, so check it out. I believe that there were many modifications to the original Pleven Plan.

Also, I read that Yugoslavia becomes a member of the ECSC? I don't think that is particularly likely, however a particularly good trade status is possible.

Lastly, what will happen with Spain and Portugal TTL? As Communism becomes a bigger problem earlier on is possible that the West reconciles with Franco's regime earlier than OTL and forces him to quickly change his economic policy?

I would love to read it, but my knowlodge of languages other than English is limited to Spanish and Latin. Though Google translate might help.

I can see where you are coming from, especially because Yugoslavia isn't a democratic state; I'll go back and amend that and in place of ECSC membership add your suggestion.

I will cover Spain and Portugal in a later update after dealing with East Asia. I'm still doing a lot of research for Spain and my copy of "Franco: Soldier, Commander, Dictator" just came in the mail yesterday, but the greater tensions between the East and West will defiantly see the West or at least the US reconciling with Spain earlier than OTL.
 
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