8. And the rest of the world hadn’t stopped to watch [Part 1: Europe]
Polish Realignment: A Sarmatian Solution to Poland’s Perils?

Poland was an old nation but a young country. With the exception of Romania, every one of its neighbours had a claim to one part or another of its land. This considerably isolated Poland.

Poland’s foreign minister, Jozef Beck, had been an active participant in the Munich conference on Germany’s side. This gambit had gained Poland the Zaolzie region, and completely isolated Poland from the west.

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Polish armour during the annexation of Zaolzie

Further complicating matters for Poland was its close relation with Japan. Poland had been tight lipped on the outbreak of the Anglo-Japanese War and only issued a belated call for restraint and diplomatic resolution. As a result the outbreak of the Anglo-Japanese War further divided Poland and the UK, and had the added detriment of meaning that Poland couldn’t hope for Japan to open up an eastern front should the Soviets move on Poland.

Polish diplomatic orthodoxy had always been to seek the assistance of France and the other western powers. However, as Munich had demonstrated, France’s adherence to its eastern alliances was conditional on British assistance. With Britain now at war in the east and France still chilly after Munich, it became apparent that no one in the west would come to their aid.

Poland had previously pursued the idea of a confederation of alliance of Europe’s minor powers. However, border disputes with Czechoslovakia and an unwillingness to accept Polish leadership meant that little progress had been made towards that goal.

Poland’s only option seemed to be to find accommodation in the schemes of one of the neighbouring great powers. The Soviet Union had nearly invaded Poland over the annexation of Zaolzie. That left Germany.

Germany had of course been Poland’s partner in the Munich Crisis. However, many of the same arguments brought up at Munich could just as easily be wielded against Poland. On the 6th of January 1939 Germany’s Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, pressed Beck on the matter of the Polish corridor. He demanded a firm commitment to the annexation of the Free City of Danzig and the establishment of an extraterritorial highway connecting East Prussia to the rest of Germany.

These terms would be a steep price to Poland. Even with the establishment of Gdynia,[1] the loss of economic rights in Danzig and the threat of the extraterritorial road being used to sever connections with the Baltic coast would give Germany a stranglehold on the Polish economy. Put on the spot, Beck carefully put off the matter by noting that he would need to consult with his government before committing, and suggested a conference at a later date to hammer out an agreement on the transfer of Danzig. That conference would end up being the Danzig Conference of the 11th of February, 1939.

Having successfully put off that matter, Beck shifted the topic to the expected fate of Czechoslovakia. After all, the Poles, as Sarmatians, wanted to stand alongside their fellow aryans.

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Beck and Ribbentrop


Grave Uncertainty: The State of French War Planning

Were one to take an overview of French industrial output in 1939 one would likely get the impression that France was at war. In reality, this was very much not (yet) the case, but France was very clearly mobilizing it’s economy nearly as fast as it’s ally across the channel.

That Germany may try to take advantage of the UK’s distraction was not lost on politicians in Paris. In either a short or a long war the prospects for France alone to beat Germany seemed remarkably slim, demographics alone dictated that France stood little chance.

In lieu of quantity the French hoped quality could make do. That meant more tanks, more planes, more trucks, and more forts; and that meant more spending. Which was not an entirely repellent prospect to the ruling Socialists, as they had always intended to spend their way out of the great depression. The shift from buying surplus wheat to buying breakthrough tanks[2] was accomplished with minimal grumbling from the ruling coalition and the open support of the right wing opposition. Only the communists, who by this point existed only to state their disapproval in every government initiative, gave any dissent.

The French government also began new diplomatic initiatives. Overtures were made to Mussolini aimed at securing Italy’s neutrality in event of a Franco-German war, negotiations for their detente would drag on for months. On the on the 25th France signed the Bérard-Jordana Agreement, which shifted French diplomatic opinion from the moribund Republican cause to the Nationalist cause, and included a pact of nonaggression within its “declaration of good neighbourly relations”.

The military however was as confused and directionless as ever. Despite acquiring more tools for mobile warfare, it remained set on maintaining a defensive posture in what it anticipated would be a positional war.

The most immediate military actions France undertook were directed towards the security of its colonies near the war zone. While no great surge in troop numbers took place, a couple of mostly unassuming rotations positioned higher quality troops within the garrison. On the 11th of January a Moroccan Goum arrived in Haiphong to much fanfare and claims of “Mediterranean colour being brought to liven up the far east.” Officers were also shifted around to shake the rust out of the local military establishment, and the aged FT light tanks were complimented by new Panhard 178 armoured cars providing some much needed mobility and firepower to the garrison.

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Moroccan Goumiers in the Central Highlands, despite appearances they had a reputation to be brave and dependable soldiers

The mobilization of French industry also benefited from British contracts, in particular for uniforms and logistical aid. French merchant and passenger ships played a part in the feverish movement of men and materials to Malaya and Australia that occurred in the first few months.


Dutch Neutrality Endangered: The January 13th Incident

Not only the Australian bush burned on Black Friday, but Dutch territorial water did as well. At 07:00 hours JST a Japanese merchant oil tanker was torpedoed as it left the port of Bula in the Dutch East Indies. The Japanese demanded an explanation of the Dutch, and threatened “additional precautions” while in Dutch territorial waters.

The Dutch government was alarmed by this. While the Dutch government had been taking some pro-British positions, it was in no way prepared to enter the war at this stage. A quick shakedown of the Koninklijke Marine confirmed that no Dutch ship was involved in the incident.[3]

Thus the Dutch foreign office had occasion to ring up their British counterparts. Which led the British foreign minister to approach Churchill to confirm what everyone was suspecting. The perpetrator was the submarine HMS Clyde acting on the admiralty’s directive to interdict Japanese oil shipments regardless of jurisdiction.

The Lord of the Admiralty came under criticism in Parliament for this overreach. However, Churchill was still untouchable after the fleet action off Borneo, and the arguments he presented about oil being Japan’s achilles’ heel were irrefutable. Still, trampling Dutch neutrality could not be permitted, and Churchill was forced to rescind the directive.

While the diplomatic matter passed swiftly enough, the incident had been a wake up call to the Dutch public who only now realized how precarious their neutrality was. As letters of concern poured in and demonstrations were held the conservative coalition running the Netherlands began to feel the pinch. No gradual build up or time spent waiting for new kit to be ordered and delivered would be acceptable to the electorate. The Netherland’s empire was in peril and only a surge of troops into the region would pass, efforts to maintain appearances and avoid a knee jerk reaction from Tokyo be damned.

That however raised issues of its own. The KNIL did not conscript troops and a recruitment drive would likely alert the Japanese before it would yield results. The Dutch conscript army constitutionally could not be deployed outside of Europe, which shut that avenue down. On the other hand, conscripts in the Korps Mariniers could be deployed overseas, though the KM was traditionally a smaller force. It was far from an optimal solution, but in 1939, all calls to serve would exclusively be to the Korps Mariniers.

The dubious constitutionality of this was noted. Those turning 18 that year were aware that the letters they received from the government weren't like the ones their older siblings and fathers had received. Still the matter went unchallenged, initially.

The Social Democratic Workers Party, still on its path of moderation, understood the public anxiety surrounding the January 13th Incident and understood that a misstep would paint themselves as unpatriotic. No, it was better to let the matter simmer, and launch a parliamentary challenge only once the public began to grow weary of its sons being cast off to the Indies. Instead they focused their criticism on the government's plans to procure capital ships from Germany. It argued that money should be spent in the Netherlands to the benefit of Dutch labourers,[4] rather than to fund Nazi militarism and oppression.

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KNIL infantry with their eclectic kit.


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[1] which had even eclipsed Danzig in volume of shipping.

[2] also finally achieved the government’s goal of lowering the cost of living, as the cost of food was finally not being artificially inflated in a period when workers were getting reduced hours.

[3] though many in the naval establishment, including Rear Admiral Conrad Helfrich seemed oddly excited by the turn of events and the funding increase they could expect as a result.

[4] optimally, though a new Rijkswerf rather than a private company.

A comparison of the January 13th Incident to the Attack on Hong Kong reveals quite a bit about the differences between the UK and Japan. In the UK, even if necessity mandates that barely a slap on the wrist is given (for now), the military isn’t permitted to overstep into the civil government’s domain (in this case, the foriegn ministry) and the government takes steps to mend fences after the incident. Whereas Japan’s civil government had for a few years now been little more than a rubber stamp for (not even particularly high ranking) officers.

Sorry for the long wait.
 
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And now we see the effects in Europe! France is more willing to compromise with fascism, in the face of the German terror on the horizon. Germany, too, seems to be vaguely entertaining Polish attempts at a treaty; we shall see how this plays out.

I'm curious about the Soviets. I imagine they'll be content to sit back and modernize, much like OTL until the Nazis provided their oh-so rude awakening. One wonders if we will see similar actions here. A hypothetical German-Polish alliance might stir the Red Giant, but perhaps not. Stalin might provide more money and material to the Chinese Communists, taking advantage of the Japanese's distractions down south.
 

raharris1973

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Only the communists, who by this point existed only to state their disapproval in every government initiative, gave any dissent.

Were the French Communists opposing French rearmament even before the Molotov-Ribbentropp Pact and while Stalin was still bitterly criticizing the Fascist powers?
 
And now we see the effects in Europe! France is more willing to compromise with fascism, in the face of the German terror on the horizon. Germany, too, seems to be vaguely entertaining Polish attempts at a treaty; we shall see how this plays out.

I'm curious about the Soviets. I imagine they'll be content to sit back and modernize, much like OTL until the Nazis provided their oh-so rude awakening. One wonders if we will see similar actions here. A hypothetical German-Polish alliance might stir the Red Giant, but perhaps not. Stalin might provide more money and material to the Chinese Communists, taking advantage of the Japanese's distractions down south.

Stalin will be quivering in his boots - not only has his foreign policy to woo Germany/Britain/France failed - but he could be potentially invaded by Germany and Poland. Hitler's attempts to acquire his own arrangement with Poland is well known but with little success OTL. This potentially changes the diplomatic dynamics considerably.
 
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Were the French Communists opposing French rearmament even before the Molotov-Ribbentropp Pact and while Stalin was still bitterly criticizing the Fascist powers?
Opposed to rearmament? No. Not that they had enough deputes to endanger rearmament if they wanted to.

Opposed on principle to the Radical-Socialist Party? Yes. After Munich they were basically shit disturbers. This is yet another opportunity to bellyache about how the opportunity for resistance was carelessly thrown away and that the present government can't be trusted to act.
 
Huzzah, the much anticipated Europe update! Good stuff all around, things seem quite reasonable on all fronts at first blush. I appreciate Poland's lack of assurances from anywhere but Germany, can Beck thread the needle and get German protection against the Soviets without losing Polish sovereignty in foreign relations? Good of France to try for some form of detente with Italy, having the talks drag on for half a year or more is a very reasonable expectation.

This is pure speculation but if Poland and Germany can form some sort of entente (it need not be a full alliance) then France might manage to avoid a war with Germany entirely, assuming Hitler still considers the Soviet Union to be the enemy to be broken. I suspect that if a Soviet-German war breaks out it will occupy enough of Germany's efforts to avoid OTL's INVADE EVERYTHING behaviour, keeping the war in Europe restricted to Eastern Europe unless some other country decides to tip the scales. As always I consider Italy to be the wild card in Europe: Il Duce might make a grab for something in the Mediterranean while everyone's attentions are elsewhere, which could make the French very cross if they'd just worked out a detente with the expectation of avoiding just such a thing.

Looking forward to future updates!
 
I imagine any potential treaty between Germany and Poland would last only as long as the Ribbontrop/Molotov Pact did I.e until Hitler decided it was unnecessary.
 
With no Khalkin Gol to distract might Stalin go for the Baltics before Poland?

Is there any reason that Molotov-Ribbentrop should not proceed as OTL?
 
With no Khalkin Gol to distract might Stalin go for the Baltics before Poland?

Is there any reason that Molotov-Ribbentrop should not proceed as OTL?

If France and Poland etc is more willing to jaw jaw and make deals over OTL then I can see Germany not resorting to the M-R

My understanding is that they did not really want to but it was the only deal going for them at the time
 
With no Khalkin Gol to distract might Stalin go for the Baltics before Poland?

Is there any reason that Molotov-Ribbentrop should not proceed as OTL?
Even if no Khalkin Gol there were other Soviet-japanese border clashes that could have had a similar effect.

That depents, if France is giving Germany free hands for Eastern Europe (Poland and Russia) and therefore Britain stands put too, there will be no need for any M-R, that was the only reason the two devils made a deal OTL from German side (the Soviet one was Stalin wished for his enemies to weaken themselves, directing Hitler west, most had assumed another trench warfare in france for many years, even in French and German High Command and so did Stalin and many others, we all know how that turned out in reality).
 
Why would Communists oppose the government policy of economical mobilization in France ?
There is no Soviet-German pact (and there may never be, if Poland and Germany become allies), so Soviet Union (and by extension Komintern) need France strong enough to fight Germany. Even if France isn't allied with Soviet Union, a strong France is still a threat on the west of Germany (which helps Moscow).
 
Great to see an update and more political juggling acts and eggs waiting to drop. Keeping Italy neutral could assist in limiting Germany trying to thrust into the Balkans, plus diverting troops to monitor the Italian border instead of being available to go East.
 
They instigated strikes after Munich, so they were petty enough to actually interrupt French rearmament. Raising a stink in the chamber of deputies is child's play in comparison.
For the PCF the real enemy is always the Socialists (and maybe the Radicals) never the Right. Their ideological heirs are still at it.
 
I was wondering about the numbers of Aircraft that can be carried on RN Carriers.

I am asking because while we have aircraft like Fairey Swordfish, which were designed from the start as Carrier aircraft, things like folding wings included, some of the aircraft which will find themselves pressed into FAA service are not. Here I am primarily talking about things like Gloster (Sea) Gladiators, and possibly Hawker (Sea) Hurricanes, which could be navalized relatively easily, but would lack folding wings, so there are going to be some problems with stowing them in hangars. Does anyone have any concrete aircraft numbers we could be seeing, if we presume that two primary aircraft types are Swordfish and Sea Gladiator? Could this perhaps see RN adopt deck parking much earlier then IOTL, or at least things like outriggers in an effort to increase the number of aircraft carried? RN currently has 3 CVs in the area, the Hermes (20AC), Eagle (25-30AC) and Glorious (48AC), with Ark Royal (designed for 72AC) on the way. How much reduction in AC numbers could we see in practice?

Still, at least the opposition is not flying Zeroes, and at worst we are talking roughly similar CV Aircraft performance for both sides. Though Blackburn Skua could actually prove to be rather decent aircraft ITTL, the gap between it and opposing aircraft is not "too" big, and it could prove to be adequate enough, even if used as an emergency fighter. Still, this may serve as enough of a wake up call for the RN, so that they manage to acquire a decent enough fighter aircraft, and not rely on RAF cast offs or pressing Dive bombers into service as Fighters.

Though, how may the experience gained, impact the construction and development of future RN carriers? We currently have 4 Illustrious CVs under construction, could we perhaps see more then one built to a modified Indomitable design, or are the first 3 too far gone for changes to be made?
 
Though, how may the experience gained, impact the construction and development of future RN carriers? We currently have 4 Illustrious CVs under construction, could we perhaps see more then one built to a modified Indomitable design, or are the first 3 too far gone for changes to be made?
I suspect the carriers already underway would be finished as planned, perhaps with minor modifications done in dock as new equipment becomes available. Trying to modify the designs while already under construction would result in delays when they're needed ASAP.
Because the direction against Japan will be south-to-north from Australia and Singapore there won't be the huge stretches of open water to cross like the east-west route the Americans would have to follow. I suspect this means the armoured carrier will remain a RN staple as attack from land-based bombers will remain a significant threat, although wartime experience may encourage a shift to a single armoured flight deck instead of the complete armoured 'box' as in the Illustrious class. This saves weight and lets you have taller hangers, the Illustrious' major drawback.
I think you're quite correct that this war is likely to result in some earlier advancements in RN carrier aircraft, simply to satisfy needs. I think it would be neat for early successes of navalized Hurricanes to result in the Hawker Typhoon being designed from the outset as a carrier fighter, likely with a Centaurus or Hercules radial engine (which would make it a Tornado). Of course it probably wouldn't be entering service until 1940, which is years off yet in TTL.
 
@GrahamB too bad about CVs, they could really do with greater AC capacity, as provided by Indomitable. Though, are the Naval Treaties still going to be obeyed by the British, now that they are in an actual war? If not, then we could really see British going for larger, more capable CVs, and even if they are still of an Armoured Box design, you can certainly get more planes if they are not limited to 23k ton hull, unlike OTL. Not to mention things like proposed Maintenance CVs, like HMS Unicorn and her unbuilt sisters, which were done in (among other things) by British obeying the naval treaties. We could see RN skipping the Implacable class entirely ITTL, and going for 30k+ton design from the start, and depending on when the design process is done with, how many slipways and other resources are availlable (not to mention other naval requirements), we could see them getting into service around late '42 or early '43? It may be a step too far to see the RN jumping froM Illustrious/Indomitable class straight to building Malta/Audacious/Midway weight class CVs, but perhaps something along the lines of Taiho class is plausable, though without the variety of flaws that it had?

The actual use of CV in combat might also result in surface ships currently designed or being built losing their aviation facilities, so for example King George V class BBs and Fiji class CL could ITTL not have the Seaplanes and Catapults fitted. Same could happen to older ships of various classes when they go in for a refit, with aviation facilities being replaced by more AA or other equipment.

As for the aircraft evolution, we could see Fairey Albacore skipped entirely, or at least enter service in limited numbers, to see service only on older and smaller CVs still in use, or at worst an interim design, while greater emphasis is put on getting a more modern bomber. Most likely choice would be something like a Fairey Barracuda, with its ability to serve as both Torpedo and Dive bomber, which would be an important quality with majority of RN CVs still limited in aircraft complement. As for the fighters, we could see RN ditching the 2-man fighter concept earlier, though I am unsure just what they might come up with. Your idea for Hawker Typhoon to become the primary Carrier fighter does sound good however, and could work. Still, considering the general situation, even navalized Hurricanes are currently one of the better naval aircraft, easily comparable (or even better) in speed and armament with whatever Japanese or US currently use, only downside being the short range and lack of folding wings.
 
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