Let's say that due to some small unspecified (and unrelated) changes, Mussolini dies on the Isonzo front in 1917 (instead of only being wounded) and Italy is granted their fair share (including Dalmatia) at the end of the war.

Would this be enough to steer Italy away from fascism? What would the effects of this be around Europe, or more specifically, in Germany?
 
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If italy get Dalmatia and some token colony like the northern part of Tanganika and her overlordship on Albania and she get treated on pair like other great power I think you can butterfly away most of the fascist propaganda, but nevertheless you can't simply make disappear the dear state of Italian economy after WW1 and the HUGE social unrest among farmers, veteran and factory workers. Without mussolini and a sense of accomplishment for the the sacrifice of the great war i think you can butterfly away the transition from the fascist movement to a aparty. Probably Italy will have huge reds revolt but unlikely the "marcia su Roma" (fascist coupe) the king will authorize the police to shoot and crush the insurrection. Than you'll probably have a fragile republic on pair on the German one, who is going to suffer revolt in dalmatia and maybe a war with the kingdom of Yugoslavia or what is created in the balkan, the Croats are not gonna be pleased with the occupation of almost all thier coast . You are going to see something similar to the Lateran pacts and the catholic tradition can probably stabilize the political situation. The 29 is going to ben fun as hell, honestly I don't have the slightest idea on what situation is going to be, the reds as tradition are going to be presents and probably strong, a nationalist movment is probably going to be present but i think the social and the economic issues are going to be predominant, because essentially we won the war and obteined what we wanted even if we paid a dear price. So I tend to think that a socialist or comunist revolution are more probable than a black one. And a civil war like the one in Spain is somethig absolutely not to exclude. Industrial red north vs catholic and conservative south. Ethiopia campaign is a nono.
 
No Mussoli mean no fascist party, he was him that transformed the movement in a viable political force and united very disparate forces that otherwise will have fought each others; the communist by the end of the 'Biennio Rosso' have lost the opportunity for a violent overthrow of the goverment...and they painfully knows it (the only one that doesn't know it are the King and the rest of the goverment), while political violence will still happen it will be in a more manageable level.
By this time the communist have formed their own party but in 1924 they get just 19 seat over 530 in the national election , as Matteotti, Turati and the rest of the moderate socialist have created their own (Partito Socialista Unitario) and obtained 24 seat.

Italy getting what promised in the London Treaty without all the drama and Wilson very pubblic humiliation of the italian goverment will mean that the liberal enstablishment had not lost all his credibility and so is in a stronger position to resist both fascist and communist even if relations with Jugoslavia will not be very warm...still nobody in Belgrade will be stupid enough to start a war with Italy as they know that they are not strong enough, maybe they will try to foment some revolt but it's more probable that the goverment in Rome will go for the forced italianization, mass deportation and strong suppression of any revolt.

No fascist Italy, but with much probability with a goverment on par with France regarding stability (maybe a little more due to the presence of the King) mean no invasion of Ethiopia and no victory by the nationalist in Spain as italian help was instrumental in their success.
We can have a League of Nation that's kept alive a little more and Adolf that will need to find another 'great man' to take as example...unfortunely the time surely not lacked them.
 
Let's say that due to some small unspecified (and unrelated) changes, Mussolini dies on the Isonzo front in 1917 (instead of only being wounded) and Italy is granted their fair share (including Dalmatia) at the end of the war.

Would this be enough to steer Italy away from fascism? What would the effects of this be around Europe, or more specifically, in Germany?
Could Italy have avoided Fascism when Mussolini's Black Shirts marched on Rome? I have read that the army was more than willing to put down the (overestimated?) show of power, and all they needed was the order by the king. But Victor Emanuel III who seems to have the reputation of being a coward instead asked Mussolini to form a government, and thus placed him in power legally.
 
Could Italy have avoided Fascism when Mussolini's Black Shirts marched on Rome? I have read that the army was more than willing to put down the (overestimated?) show of power, and all they needed was the order by the king. But Victor Emanuel III who seems to have the reputation of being a coward instead asked Mussolini to form a government, and thus placed him in power legally.

More than cowardice, was the fear that putting down a rebellion was a feat that the army can do just one time and that if the socialist/communist will have raised the army will have not followed order; so the King and co. thought to co-opt Benny because they believe he was easily controlled.
In reality the force and capacity of the left to take the power by force was vastly overrated and all was done in the end for nothing.
 
Let's say that due to some small unspecified (and unrelated) changes, Mussolini dies on the Isonzo front in 1917 (instead of only being wounded) and Italy is granted their fair share (including Dalmatia) at the end of the war.

Would this be enough to steer Italy away from fascism? What would the effects of this be around Europe, or more specifically, in Germany?
No. You would need to kill a number of people in WW1 in order to steer away from fascism by killing off its fathers, and you're still likely to see some kind of revanchist movement taking hold. The only way you can avoid that is having the treaties that pulled Italy into the war being respected. With this, you would get a bit of a fuss over Fiume/Rejka, which would be solved as OTL, and revanchism would go back to sleep with that. Of course, the Great Depression is still there, waiting...
 
No. You would need to kill a number of people in WW1 in order to steer away from fascism by killing off its fathers, and you're still likely to see some kind of revanchist movement taking hold. The only way you can avoid that is having the treaties that pulled Italy into the war being respected. With this, you would get a bit of a fuss over Fiume/Rejka, which would be solved as OTL, and revanchism would go back to sleep with that. Of course, the Great Depression is still there, waiting...

Fascism rise is not avoidable sure...but his rise to power, his success, his taking control of Italy it's very dependt by Benny, otherwise it's just a group of local strongman that nominally are loyal to an very neboulous ideology. The treatment of Italy at Versailles, her very pubblic humiliation and the idea that her sacrifice had not been really compensated were a very visible factor in the political turmoil...but just one, even if she get what promised the pression over the enstablishment will be diminished allowing some breath to the goverment
 
More than cowardice, was the fear that putting down a rebellion was a feat that the army can do just one time and that if the socialist/communist will have raised the army will have not followed order; so the King and co. thought to co-opt Benny because they believe he was easily controlled.
In reality the force and capacity of the left to take the power by force was vastly overrated and all was done in the end for nothing.
This has echoed through, what, almost the last two hundred years of human history? We willingly choose a right-wing government because we're scared shitless of a left-wing one.
 
This has echoed through, what, almost the last two hundred years of human history? We willingly choose a right-wing government because we're scared shitless of a left-wing one.
Well, it's not weird, on paper. Right-wing governments are thought of as more orderly, calmer, letting life go on without too many shakes. Left-wing governments are anti-establishment, anti-rules, the ones who want to tear down the house to build a new one. It's not true, of course, but the feeling is there.
 
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