Israel versus Pakistan

Inappropriate Religious ranting

wkwillis said:
I figure that the Pakistanis are waiting till they can set up a meteor bounce communications computer controlled failsafe to automatically subtract a Jewish (New York) or JudeoChristian (Dallas) city for every Islamic city.
You figure this on the basis of what, facts and evidence from multiple independent sources that you have so far declined to share with us, or your own personal beliefs? If its your personal beliefs, fine, make it clear, and lets see your reasoning and any logic behind it. ? If it is based on some sort of evidence, lets see it.

wkwillis said:
Say, 1000 100 megaton bombs basement bombs
Would you care to explain what you mean by this statement? What do you mean by a basement bomb?Why do they need a thousand? Why do they need to be 100 megatons each? Where are you pulling these numbers from, a book, a website, your imagination? Also, just how is Pakistan going to get the resources to build a thousand of your 'basement bombs', let alone the delivery systems capable of hitting 'jewish' cities such as New York.

wkwillis said:
JudeoChristian is the southern church in America. We really have a northern Christian, New Testament church and a southern, JudeoChristian, Old Testament church. It's weird, but very American. Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, Catholic, Presbyterian, etc, doesn't much matter. Just Old Testament Christians and New Testament Christians.
What precisely has this got to do with the POD, this thread, or alternative history at all? If you want a platform from which to spread your religious ideas, I suggest you seek one elsewhere. Most people here would rather discuss Alternative History.
 
Different way of looking at deterrence

I was picking up on panzerjay on, well, let me quote him again

panzerjay said:
the samson option

if Pakistan goes bad and launches nukes at isreal, every islamic capital and shrine hosting city will be glass.

its like saying "u cazy, am crazy"

a deterrent that works
I still think that Israel is not interested in genocide. Israel is a real estate ponzi scam with an army, not a third reich clone. The samson option is more my style than theirs.
See what's his name on "The American Way of War" to understand where I'm at.
And incidentally, I'm libertarian, not conservative. I would much prefer to see a socialist government a la Sweden than the conservative one we have now. The Southern Republicans that dominate the Republican party are right wing socialists. Such governments are dangerous.
 
Paleo is insufficiently paranoid.

The name of this thread is Pakistan vs Israel. See the original post

I assume basement bombs. Cheaper than rockets.

I assume that they are using second generation thermonuclear bombs. That's mostly costing on the fission trigger. They don't use tritium, so the total cost is about a million each, for a billion total. That includes the uranium, the conversion, the enrichment, the fabrication, and the placement.

There is a perception in the Moslem world that there is some kind of deranged Christian crusade going on in Iraq. Most people in America don't think we are in Iraq because we are trying to enslave or convert the Iraqi population. A large number of Moslems think that we are. Considering some of the stuff I am hearing, perhaps the nut in the white house really is a jesus freak who really does think that "our god is bigger than your god".

I don't think they will strike first. This is a defensive weapon system. If nobody nukes them, they won't nuke nobody. If they are attacked, they will not escalate. One city for one city. There is no moral problem with this approach.

It's the Darfur Liberation Front I worry about. Some people have nothing to lose. They have nothing now, but the bombs keep getting cheaper. Someday someone will use one. If Khartoum disappears, what if it isn't the Israelis that did it? Will that save New Orleans?

Kind of reminds me of that day in 1914.
 
No offense wkwillis but I'm kind of lost here (and I suspect the others are here) because you are jumping around and around here. First from Pakistan then to Israel then to Darfur. Plus, where is Pakistan going to get the material to build one thousand of these bombs and the means to ship them everywhere (last I heard, Karachi wasn't a world class port like Singapore or Amsterdam or New York City) you mention. Furthermore, since we are rather clueless as to why you are talking about the various Christian denominations in the US, I suspect that the Pakistanis would be as well and they really wouldn't care. Then, you go off on a tangent about Iraq and some muslims perceiving this as a Christian crusade. No offense once again but you really are jumping from topic to topic that aren't linked to the main idea of this thread, which initially was that Israel and Pakistan fight each other with their nukes and has now moved onto a debate about a surgical strike (most likely by the US) to deprive Pakistan of its nuclear weapons.
 
Were you referring to me in the title of your last post? If so, my tag is Paulo the Limey, for future reference.
wkwillis said:
The name of this thread is Pakistan vs Israel. See the original post
I make a point of reading every post before commenting on a thread, following the principle of R>C>P. Read, comprehend, post.
wkwillis said:
JudeoChristian is the southern church in America. We really have a northern Christian, New Testament church and a southern, JudeoChristian, Old Testament church. It's weird, but very American. Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, Catholic, Presbyterian, etc, doesn't much matter. Just Old Testament Christians and New Testament Christians.
What is the relevancy of this to the subject matter?
And to repeat a few questions you didn't answer before hand-
What do you mean by a basement bomb? How are these 100 megaton monstrosities going to get to their targets, if not by rockets? The Pakistani Air Force? Is General Musharaff going to FedEx them to the target cities? Or is the Pakistani Intelligence service going to smuggle a thousand of these devices out of the country, into the target cities, where they will remain undetected until they are activated, possibly by the ASB that instigated all this.
wkwillis said:
a Jewish (New York) or JudeoChristian (Dallas) city
Why are you calling New York a Jewish city? Where are your facts to support this statement? Where is the data from the last NYC census to show that a significant majority of the inhabitants of the city are Jewish? Or is this an example of a baseless belief of yours?

Show me independent evidence of something to be paranoid about, and I'll be justifiably scared. Show me an imaginary super-powerful Pakistani nuclear deterrent without grounding it in plausibility, I'll most likely laugh in your face.
 

Proctol

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Interestingly, the film "The Peace Maker" (1997) has George Clooney chasing a Pakistani Muslim nuclear scientist who makes a small atom bomb for a Christian Serb trying to smuggle it in to explode it in Manahttan. This was before the demonization of the Serbs, the 1999 attack on Serbia, and the revelation of Pakistani nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan spreading nuclear weapons worldwide. Hollywood frequently presages reality!
 

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wkwillis said:
Look, you may think that Musharraf is not as stupid as Sharon, but I don't! The Pakistanis are MORE likely to go nuclear than the Israelis. You are free to feel differently. You can believe that the Israelis are evil, genocidal, maniacs and that the Pakistanis are gentle, peaceful, secular humanists, but I think that that is a minority opinion on this board.
Dude, WTF? Are you trying to troll or something?
 
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