Isabelline Netherlands

Is there a way that Albert of Austria and Isabella of Spain, could have a surviving line that inherits the Spanish Netherlands on Albert's death in 1622, but not the HRE, or the kingdoms of Bohemia and Hungary-Croatia?

Their daughter Anne Mauricienne (b.1609) would be ineligible for HRE, but what about Bohemia and Hungary-Croatia? And I assume she would be married off to OTL Ferdinand III or OTL D. Carlos of Spain.
 
In the case that the line of Isabella Albert and Isabella would end with one surviving heiress; then she was obliged to marry the king of 'Spain'* (*= Castille, Aragon etc.) or someone of his choosing, so an Austrian relative seems quite likely.
Depending on the period Bohemia and Hungary-Croatia were elective monarchies (and de facto male preference) too, this changed in Bohemia (offically 1627, de facto 1621 (Verneuerte Landesordnung) and in Hungary (1687) to hereditary monarchies (though in the former the position of the monarch was much more strengthened).

However IOTL Albert did inherit Upper and Lower Austria (Austria proper) and further, IOTL he abdicated in favour of his brother Ferdinand II, who was the father of Ferdinand III. I can see them arranging a match between Anne Mauricienne and Ferdinand III. Also with an heir or heiress Albert probably won't addicate either.
Only the Southern Netherlands can be an issue, if the king of Spain would want a match with someone of his branch (if available).
Charles seems an option for Philip III, though he wasn't liked by the favourite of Philip III, OTOH it would keep the inheritance intact. (Though IOTL Charles died aged 25.)
 
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Ferdinand II was Albert's first cousin, not his brother. At any rate, I don't think that Albert or his heir would be particularly considered for the Imperial Crown or the Austrian lands. Albert was basically seen as Spanish, and was essentially passed over for these inheritances OTL (at the time there was no way of knowing he'd only outlive his brother by two years). So if they have a son, a distinct Burgundian line of Habsburgs seems possible. Of course, the "independence" of Albert and Isabella's Netherlands from Spain was somewhat notional.

If the line survives down to 1700, it almost certainly inherits all the Spanish lands.

With just a daughter, I'd say she's probably married to Philip IV of Spain or one of his brothers, and probably not into the Austrian line.
 
Actually Ferdinand II was Albert's uncle. Albert inherited Austria proper and Further Austria as the eldest surviving male of the line of Maximilian II. Now if Albert will have a surviving heir or heiress he won't abdicate his rights as easily as IOTL.

In case of an heiress infante Charles is possible, with archduke Ferdinand III as second option.
A male heir IMHO might lead to a reshuffle of the Habsburg lands.
 
Actually Ferdinand II was Albert's uncle. Albert inherited Austria proper and Further Austria as the eldest surviving male of the line of Maximilian II. Now if Albert will have a surviving heir or heiress he won't abdicate his rights as easily as IOTL.

In case of an heiress infante Charles is possible, with archduke Ferdinand III as second option.
A male heir IMHO might lead to a reshuffle of the Habsburg lands.

Reshuffle is a good way to phrase it. Thereby Anne Mauricienne's children would be one step closer to the Spanish throne, and one further from the Imperial one? Since by the Onate Treaty (in summary) the king of Spain agreed to stop saying "I should be emperor instead", and to support the Austrian branch in the elections.

What about marrying her to a neutral branch of the Hapsburgs - the one in further Austria? Leopold V was as yet unmarried, and his OTL wife (the Dowager Duchess of Urbino) was born in 1604, so it's not impossible.

That way, Further Austria would succeed in Hungary and Bohemia (and maybe the Netherlands too?) while Ferdinand II would become Emperor, and the king of Spain would (maybe) have the Southern Netherlands returned to him to be parceled out to D. Fernando?
 
Actually Ferdinand II was Albert's uncle. Albert inherited Austria proper and Further Austria as the eldest surviving male of the line of Maximilian II. Now if Albert will have a surviving heir or heiress he won't abdicate his rights as easily as IOTL.

In case of an heiress infante Charles is possible, with archduke Ferdinand III as second option.
A male heir IMHO might lead to a reshuffle of the Habsburg lands.

Emperor Ferdinand II and Albert were first cousins. Albert also had an uncle, Archduke Ferdinand II, but he was a) dead for over 20 years by 1619; and b) without any sons who were considered legitimate.

Simplified Family Tree of the Austrian Habsburgs:

Emperor Ferdinand I (1503-1564)
1. Emperor Maximilian II (1527-1576)
1.1. Emperor Rudolf II (1552-1612)
1.2. Archduke Ernst (1553-1595)
1.3. Emperor Matthias (1557-1619)
1.4. Archduke Maximilian III (1558-1618)
1.5. Archduke Albrecht (1559-1621)
2. Archduke Ferdinand II (1529-1595)
3. Archduke Karl II (1540-1590)
3.1. Emperor Ferdinand II (1578-1637)
3.1.1. Emperor Ferdinand III (1608-1657)
3.1.2. Archduke Leopold Wilhelm (1614-1662)
3.2. Archduke Leopold V (1586-1632)
3.3. Archduke Karl (1590-1624)
 
@ jlk7e: then I got archduke Ferdinand II and archduke Charles II mixed up. Still the main confusion IMHO was the fact that you had the emperor in mind whereas I was referring to the archduke.
 
Out of curiosity, is there a way that Albert and Isabella can have a surviving son who is by-passed in the succession in favor of Ferdinand II? Ferdinand is resident in Austria, ergo a known quantity, as opposed to this kid who has been raised in Brussels.

Maybe the Burgundian line is reduced to a default line should the Austrian branch (Ferdinand II's) die out.
 
Out of curiosity, is there a way that Albert and Isabella can have a surviving son who is by-passed in the succession in favor of Ferdinand II? Ferdinand is resident in Austria, ergo a known quantity, as opposed to this kid who has been raised in Brussels.

Maybe the Burgundian line is reduced to a default line should the Austrian branch (Ferdinand II's) die out.

Thing is Albrecht did inherit Austria proper and Further Austria. If he now has a son, which will be able to continue his line, then he won't give that inheritance away. A surviving heir for Albrecht and Isabella will have an effect, since ITTL they will want to ensure the inheritance of their child (children). Regardless were he or his son were brought up. Also he might be in a better position for Spanish support than Ferdinand II (III) was IOTL.
 
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