Is this TL Idea Realistic: Continental Victory

So I have pitched this idea before but right now I have fleshed it out a bit more. The idea first started when I was about eleven and was thinking about a story for class about a fifties London where crime ran rapant, drugs were everywhere and a massively cataclysmic war had just ended (Think WW1+Thirty Years War). And as I was thinking about this I became more interested in the war itself. So I drew a map of the war, The war was pretty much East v. West with a United Scandinavia, Britain, France, Germany and Italy on one side and Russia, Austria the Ottomans and some sort of Baltic Nation on the other side. Later when I joined this site I realized the map was pretty unrealistic so now I have decided to flesh it out more.

Napoleon wins at Waterloo, the massive British defeat causes a collapse in the British economy and Britain makes a seperate peace with France. Prussian forces retreat back to the Rhineland. Napoleon realizes that his victory could be short lived and moves for a lightning strike at Austro-Russian forces mobilizing near Bavaria. This battle is Napoleon's final defeat, Napoleon is killed during the battle and the emporers forces begin to crumble. A final surrender is obtained from Marshal Ney the following day. The day of July 29th 1815 is the end of almost 25 years of continual conflict.

In the mid 1800s Russia invades the Ottoman empire and Britain and France immediately move to contain them, later due to a diplomatic incident Prussia joins the fight on Britain's side and Austria joins the Russians. It ends up as a stalemate in Europe but the Russians achieve a favorable peace on the Ottoman Front. Later in the 19th Century Austria and Prussia go to war, Prussia achieving such a smashing victory that they are able to force the German states into a nation under the leadership of Prussia, although some of the South-German states remain independent with close ties to Austria.

In the early 1900s tensions come to a breaking point and the before mentioned cataclysm occurs, with the only differance being the Ottomans are now on the side of the Allies.

Sound good? Needs some fleshing out but I think that with some work I could get it to work.
 
Napoleon wins at Waterloo, the massive British defeat causes a collapse in the British economy and Britain makes a seperate peace with France.
:confused:why? Britain lost battles before, why would this one cause 'a collapse of the British economy'??

Especially, since the Prussians and the Russians were on their way, and Napoleon would likely have been defeated in a couple of days after Waterloo.

Britain not getting as much at the negotiating table afterwards, that I can see, but collapsing? or signing a separate peace? ???
 
:confused:why? Britain lost battles before, why would this one cause 'a collapse of the British economy'??

Especially, since the Prussians and the Russians were on their way, and Napoleon would likely have been defeated in a couple of days after Waterloo.

Britain not getting as much at the negotiating table afterwards, that I can see, but collapsing? or signing a separate peace? ???

It is mostly due to war bonds and such like, plus this is a monumental defeat. The British Army is routed from the Continent. That effectively removes them from the rest of the war, which will be very short anyway.
 
Hmm, this is interesting. I am by no means an expert on the Napoleonic Wars, but I do have an idea. I really don't see this scenario going far, as said above, even a cataclysmic defeat at Waterloo for the British would mean Napoleon rules a few months longer as you said. But even if every single British soldier dies on the fields of Waterloo, it won't really hamper the British Empire too mush that I see. Probably not too much of the spoils, more goes to Prussia and Austria, which may be a caucus beli for an inter-German war that forms a Germany of say the territory of the OTL North German Fed.

Also, I find it rather unlikely that the Prussians and the Austrians would fight two wars so close together (if I am reading your post right). Even if TTL Austro-Prussian War is just as the same as the OTL one, (again, I could be wrong) but you can squeeze a much harsher peace from Austria than Bismark did OTL if you want to, which he didn't. An earlier forming of a united, strong Germany under, arguably (again, correct me if I am wrong) better leaders than Germany had OTL, could cause continental friction of your own chosing, which could spark multiple catastrophic wars which could easily lead to a poverty stricken London, although you have to either have them loose epically, or just be so weakened by the Nappy Wars they don't have time to recover, although that is unlikely.

What I suggest, after all the silly rambling of mine is going on a story I heard from my AP Euro teacher, that Nappy was offered the services of some dude who wanted to build the French Navy ironclads. Nappy refused him and if I remember the story correctly, he went to America, and either built the Merrimack or the Monitor. I don't know the historical truth of this story, but if you can somehow make Nappy command at least a few ironclads beating the chocolate glazed donuts out of the Royal Navy before they can respond in turn, (which may or may not be ASB, I don't know) you may be able to orchestrate a at least relatively, or even severely damaging defeat in the Nappy Wars to Britain, you might be able to set up this scenario, although that may be either totally ASB, or a earlier POD than you're looking for.

Otherwise, I suggest taking a look at some of the other Nappy-victory TL's here, and see how their short little man managed to knock the UK out.

Now, hope that helps, and if it's totally off track and ASB, just ignore it.

Good luck to you sir.
 
It is mostly due to war bonds and such like, plus this is a monumental defeat. The British Army is routed from the Continent. That effectively removes them from the rest of the war, which will be very short anyway.

Umm, war bonds don't work that way, plus a collapse in British capital would have global repercussions.
 
An annihilation of Wellington's army might have severe social repurcussions for Britain where things were pretty hard by 1815

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Grey Wolf
 
It is mostly due to war bonds and such like, plus this is a monumental defeat. The British Army is routed from the Continent. That effectively removes them from the rest of the war, which will be very short anyway.

Actually Rothschild bought up vast amounts of gold that he planned to lend to Britain to pay for a long war. However, the war ended quickly and gold prices went down, so he ended up investing it somewhere else.
The point is that the British are very capable of fighting a sustained war against Napoleon- their industry is far stronger and their navy is superior.
If you want France up to the Rhineland you should look 1794 or thereabouts- when the French Republican armies have smashed the Europeans. They annex up to the Rhine, set up a series of puppet Republics in Germany and the rest is history . . .
 
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