Is there any realistic way to have more nations colonize the Americas?

The Ottomans could probably colonize America if they invested more in spreading their religion through trade and such, perhaps if they conquered more land it could lead them to send ships off west, towards the Americas.

It is not impossible for the Ottomans to rule over parts of the Americas. But it will likely be different than the European one.

For one, the first contact will be mercantile. Merchants settling on the Coasts of Mexico to trade with the Aztecs and Mayans. Introducing tradegoods that could help one to overcome the other such as muskets, horses, Iron etc.

Settler Colonies might likely be a penal colony. Unwanted figures/groups can be sent to settlements in the Caribbean. Although the latter is somethings the Europeans had as well.

Pirates bases on small Caribbean Islands. Especially if the Spanish dominate the Caribbean. But this is something I imagine, the chances of this to happen is pretty much unlikely.

And all this will only work if the Ottomans do not occupy Hungary without destroying Habsburg Power for at least a Century. Ideally is no Ottoman-Hungary. Ottoman Italy (Central and Southern Italy, North is vassalised) would also be a good option to execute Ottoman possesions in the Americas.
 
I like to think an ambitious Polish noble/group of nobles could pull a Courland and colonise a Caribbean island or two, for the prestige if nothing else.

With an earlier POD, the Hanse could develop into something akin to a West Indian company and set up some trade posts in North America.

Post 30 years war, the Spaniards could recruit Sicilians and South Italians to settle on the far side of the Rio Grande and/or the mouth of the Mississippi, to act as a buffer for the Plains tribes. Call the area Luigiana while they're at it, who knows.

As cliche as it is, a Japan that opened up in the 1600s or early 1700s could use the same route the Manila-Acapulco ships used, to look for resources if closer targets are unpalatable for some reason. Apparently there were quite a few Japanese all over the Pacific prior to the closing of the country.
 
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The Songhay, after making reforms a century earlier, could ally with the dutch in the 1600s and snatch northern Brasil from the Portuguese, or at least part of it
 
I honestly had not though of North Africa/Ottoman or West Africa doing any of it. My Question on that is, will they fall to the Europeans later on?
 
I honestly had not though of North Africa/Ottoman or West Africa doing any of it. My Question on that is, will they fall to the Europeans later on?
If you get various big time traders tl ONLY sell to African owned islands no matter how small and from there have an entire coast that'll refuse to sell large scale you might be able to maintain say a series of small islands to sell to other nations.

Having the Trans-Atlantic have African owned island claims in the new world is only natural imo.
 
Morocco is a good candidate, Venice could establish some trading posts, alongside maybe Mali could establish a few colonies on the coast of Brazil (Abu Bakr II was a Malian explorer). With some changes Sweden could also colonize more of the Americas.

The Southern Ming could perhaps escape to the New World after fighting the Qing (or one of those damned treasure fleets POD, while implausible could build up China’s maritime tradition.) and a Chinese state arises in Western North America.

Japan while traditionally isolationist is pretty close to Alaska and it’s not hard to see a “Greater Japan” cultural identity over in Eastern Siberia and Alaska.
 
Maybe if Scotland, Wales and Ireland stayed independent (and united), and so did Brittany, the Basques and maybe Gascony, we'd have more potential colonizing powers.

Sweden, Poland, Prussia and the Italian states would be interesting too - but without an Atlantic harbor, the lifeline to their colonies might be cut too easily.
 
I always thought that if any African had a chance, it would have to be either Mali, Songhai, or possibly Morocco. I figure they could probably hit Brazil's coast. Though I do like the idea of them hitting South Carolina, just to have a sizable upper class black Muslim population on the east coast by the time the ARW hits in 1776
 
The Knights of St. John briefly controlled some Caribbean islands on behalf of France. Perhaps the Knights get them in perpetuity?

You could also have Sweden and Denmark be more successful in the Western Hemisphere.
 
Could a longer lasting Majapahit make its way across the South Pacific to South America?

Probably not. Sea currents and winds would be totally against that. And trek would be too long and Majapahit has not reason and hardly resources colonise Americas.
 
Probably not. Sea currents and winds would be totally against that. And trek would be too long and Majapahit has not reason and hardly resources colonise Americas.
I second this. Majapahit would be better colonizing the Indies and Australia, if needed perhaps a trading post in East Africa.
 
Maybe if Scotland, Wales and Ireland stayed independent (and united), and so did Brittany, the Basques and maybe Gascony, we'd have more potential colonizing powers.

Sweden, Poland, Prussia and the Italian states would be interesting too - but without an Atlantic harbor, the lifeline to their colonies might be cut too easily.
None of these places have the population density and security at home to have any sensable regeime gambling on colonial ventures. Scottland had to sell off it's Sovergeinty after the New Caledonia project blew up I their face; imagine if some King suggested they put 1/4 of the money in the country on the line when your neighbor is hostile.
 
I second this. Majapahit would be better colonizing the Indies and Australia, if needed perhaps a trading post in East Africa.
They could since they are trading with Ryukyus and hold influence in Luzon, the last POD would be them actually preventing the sacking of Tondo by Brunei but it is a late POD and the most possible outcome of that is the Majapahit flees to Luzon, the only more plausible POD would be preventing the civil war in the early 15th century.
 
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They could since they are trading with Ryukyus and hold influence in Luzon, the last POD would be them actually preventing the sacking of Tondo by Brunei but it is a late POD and the most possible outcome of that is the Majapahit flees to Luzon, the only more plausible POD would be preventing the civil war in the early 15th century.

It is yet much easier sail in East Asia than cross Pacific. It is huge sea and I just can't see Majapahit doing that. There is good reason why Europeans and North Africans have easier do that. And Majapahit hasn't even reason do that. It had already all what it needed.
 
It is yet much easier sail in East Asia than cross Pacific. It is huge sea and I just can't see Majapahit doing that. There is good reason why Europeans and North Africans have easier do that. And Majapahit hasn't even reason do that. It had already all what it needed.
Well, Polynesians did sail the same eastward route with less resources. Of course they are drastically different civilizations.
 
Well, Polynesians did sail the same eastward route with less resources. Of course they are drastically different civilizations.

They made that with very long time period. I don't still see plausible way Asian nation would colonise Americas. Japan might do that throgh coastal Asia and end to Alaska but others don't seem plausible.
 
It couldn't be done over time via Polynesian island-hopping, if for example a plantation economy can somehow develop on them? The malay peoples were certainly capable of major nautical feats.

Nonetheless I do agree its unlikely, but thought it might be an interesting alternative.
 
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