It would just end up with the name of the new dynasty. Or some variation of Rûm.Presumably if the Osman line were to end for some reason, though I could just end up doing something different. Hmm..
It would just end up with the name of the new dynasty. Or some variation of Rûm.Presumably if the Osman line were to end for some reason, though I could just end up doing something different. Hmm..
It's that I'm trying to figure out what they could call themselves if the Ottoman Empire continued to today (it'd consist of Turkey, the Mashriq and Greece). Maybe the Great Levant Empire or something
Nobody called the area in question "Middle East" until the very last years of the Ottoman State (it is certainly apt to call that a "state" in its last period at least). But yes, there is no geographical term that covers all and only the (core) areas ruled by the Ottoman Empire. In the nineteenth century, "Near East" was often used in roughly that sense by the British, but it is a use that has long fallen out of favor (and it is an exonym anyway).Middle East and the Balkans. And North Africa. And the Caucauses. You can also say Levant or Anatolia but those are parts of the Middle East. Also Rumelia but that contemporarly only means southeastern Balkans/Thrace (it used to mean that and [western] Anatolia)
Of course.@Falecius
Well modern Turkish is very Arabic and Persian influenced (less so than Ottoman Turkish but otoh with more French influence). We also posses a lot of common words with Greek. (of course languages having loanwords and hybridizing is normal.)
In Ottoman Turkish, devlet did indeed refer to the dynasty and the governing apparatus. The lineage itself was called the Al-i Osman, the House of Osman, and the sultans always called the actual territory they ruled memalik-i mahrusem, "my well-protected domains."As an aside, is "state" an accurate translation of "devlet" in pre-modern times (let's say, before the Tanzimat period)? The word comes from Arabic "dawla" whose earlier meaning is more like "dynasty" (somewhat more specifically, "the turn of time of a given dynasty in power", as opposed to the dynasty as a hereditary line in itself). Both in Turkish and Arabic, "state" became the basic modern meaning, but in Arabic that does not seem to have happened before late nineteenth century, likely with an amount of Turkish influence. Certainly, "devlet" did not cover all the meanings of the English word "state" (I understand it does not incapsulate the idea of territory for instance).
My favourite was one Victoria 2 mod (might be in the base game too) had a communist Ottoman Empire be called the "Near East Popular Union".