Is the invasion of the US possible?

probably because the idea that the Royal Navy and British Empire post 1900 would have any reason to invade the United States is ASB or requires a POD much further back than OTL up to 1900

and the Germans didn't have a big enough fleet or merchant marine to do the job after 1905 (not to mention the logistics issues and the refueling bases)

that doesn't require screaming tits off, it is hard math

also 100 BB? do you mean 100 warships in total? because no one since the Napoleonic era has ever had 100 BB (which is the short form of battleship)

I don't suggest a pod, there aren't any, but that doesn't mean that the British and Germans lack the warships and fully equipped divisions available at short notice to defeat the pre ww1 usn and army. I meant 10 bbs or so, I have no computer at the moment and am winging it on the ps4 and phone.
 

TFSmith121

Banned
As defined, and in a Twentieth Century that mirrors historical

Let me clarify on what I mean by invasion
Taking territory and having the time to establishing puppet governments/ occupations akin to what Germany and Japan did to territories they occupied. A D-Day or Barbarossa-style invasions are also accepted, if possible.

The invasion has to be successful at first, and penetrate as far into America as possible. The invading parties don't have to defeat the US

As defined, and in a Twentieth Century that mirrors historical reality to January 1, 1901?

No, not in any realistic and non-ASB universe.

Best,
 
Have a country besides the US get nuclear weapons first, and then launch a first strike to prevent its monopoly being broken. In the aftermath, with the assistance of the country which launched the strike, Mexico decides to take advantage of the devastation to try to regain what it lost during the 1846-48 war.
 

TFSmith121

Banned
And a) what country would that be, when, and with what

Have a country besides the US get nuclear weapons first, and then launch a first strike to prevent its monopoly being broken. In the aftermath, with the assistance of the country which launched the strike, Mexico decides to take advantage of the devastation to try to regain what it lost during the 1846-48 war.

And a) what country would that be, when, and with what delivery system, and b) you may wish to research the history of Mexico in the Twentieth Century a little more closely.

Best,
 
The only way this works, certainly after 1900, is if the "enemy" uses Mexico as a base and builds up forces and logistics there. I discount Canada because if Canada is going to be this sort of base for the enemy, then probably the UK and the RN are on the wrong side. Invading the USA directly simply isn't logistically possible - even if the other side had Hawaii or some Caribbean islands it won't work. Yes, a lodgement might be possible but against a country the size of the USA, good luck "winning".

The scenario in Red Storm where most US allies have fallen away, the communist bloc is entrenched in Mexico, and is aided by a decapitating nuke strike, is about the only way this can work.
 
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Aha! My memory hasn't completely failed me.
Back in 1995 Robert Conroy wrote 1901 about Imperial Germany invading Long Island.

which is apparently based on a real German plan according to a couple of things I have run into as well as this of course

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_German_plans_for_the_invasion_of_the_United_States

It is unlikely to have worked out well in the long run for the Germans seeing as the main industrial strength of the United States is not in the Northeast, but in the Midwest, and while New York City is really important, and it as important as losing Leningrad would have been to Stalin, the Soviet Union would have survived losing Leningrad in 1941. A great blow but survivable.

Especially as the US Navy has other shipyards building warships elsewhere

even the Germans were not very optimistic about its likely success
 
Have a country besides the US get nuclear weapons first, and then launch a first strike to prevent its monopoly being broken. In the aftermath, with the assistance of the country which launched the strike, Mexico decides to take advantage of the devastation to try to regain what it lost during the 1846-48 war.
It would take a large number of nuclear weapons to devastate the US enough to make an invasion feasible. It would also require delivery systems such as ICBMs and strategic bombers that can travel across the Atlantic/Pacific and back. By the time another country has developed the delivery systems and gotten enough nuclear weapons the Americans will also have nuclear weapons.
 
Well the Aleutian Islands Campaign of WW2 proves that with enough firepower (like, the rest of the world combined), that island hopping can potentially bag you some of the outlying areas.
 
Well the Aleutian Islands Campaign of WW2 proves that with enough firepower (like, the rest of the world combined), that island hopping can potentially bag you some of the outlying areas.

That was also at a time when the US was not paying much attention to that area. Even then the Japanese abandoned their holdings when challenged.
 
Yeah, but Japan wasn't exactly the most powerful country in the world, so that's expected. Before WW2 a powerful coalition could probably do it (assembling such a coalition, mind, would be near on requiring ASB intervention), afterwards, no-one could.
 
I think TFSmith waas right - assuming a historical set up in 1900 it is ASB to think that a successful invasion of the USA could be launched.

By the time there is a decent enough logistical organisation to allow invasions across the Atlantic or Pacific, the US navy is capable of eliminating them.

Even with the minuscule US Army at the start of the period, the time required to launch such an invasion would trigger a build up in US land forces that would make any lodgement on the US temporary.
 
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