I forgot to mention it, but the title comes from the death of Octavian at Philippi.
slydessertfox
OK, thanks for clarifying.
Steve
I forgot to mention it, but the title comes from the death of Octavian at Philippi.
Thanks. You are right, there are great incentives for Antonius to stay in the east. At the same time however, he can one of his lieutenants to deal with the problem in the east, whereas the west is something that requires personal attention.slydessertfox
Well, decision time. The question is, unless he can match Sextus's fleet can Antonius actually do anything about the situation in the west? If that's the case he might be better off staying out east and trying to rescue the situation there. Else apart from anything else returning west will only make him look inefficient and hence result in a loss of face.
If he thinks he can defeat Sextus then heading west is probably still better as Italy is still the centre of political and military power in the empire. Although the loss of much of the east would be a big blow and I think Cleo will be a lot less favourable to Antonious if he does return east having left Egypt in the lurch.
I suspect he will stay in the east as the wealth and lifestyle there will be attractive. Also it sounds like the Parthians may have made a mistake by splitting their forces. If he can defeat the ones in Syria as well the terrain in Anatolia will be less suited to their style of warfare as well I suspect.
Anyway looking forward to seeing how things develop.
Steve
Well Italy is really going to be a pain for the Senate. It's full of Caesarian veterans recently settled, and while some might remain on the sidelines, Lepidus and Lucius are going to have an easy time gathering an army together.slydessertfox
An appropriate chapter title, as this is a big step. How much force do the Caesareans actually have in Italy because as the senate should know by now who controls the legions pretty much has the final say.
Sextus is weary about invading Italy for the same reasons he didn't OTL, and the same reasons TTL that the Senate is facing. Like I said, Italy is swarming with Caesarian veterans. Though he may take this chance to see if he can't nab Spain and Africa.Sextus has a big chance if he can step in and gain control of Italy. As well as the prestige and potential wealth it still supplies the vast majority of Roman forces. Plus with less civil wars [so far] this is not yet drained.
Yeah, it is really a coalition of Senators who don't normally see eye to eye. The most blatantly obvious example of this is the two consuls being Caesarian's and not knowing how loyal they are to the cause.on the other hand it also means responsibility. He has to restore order then defend Italy as this move will make up Antonius's mind for him. Furthermore while we see Sextus as the leader of the rebels/republicans I note the senate has mentioned other people and given orders for Corvinnus to raise legions. There will be a lot of mistrust between the assorted factions.
I guess you'll have to wait and see.As Pericles says there is the chance of a division of the empire, or more clearly, as I don't think a Roman state can survive outside Italy at this point, of substantial loss of eastern territories. Could easily end up with Egypt and Parthia in loose alliance and possibly a lot of continued unrest in the Greece lands [including Anatolia] which would take a lot of effort to recover. It all depends on what the assorted parties do there and how much Antonius can leave behind.
Thanks, I'll fix that immediately.One typo I noticed. You have weather rather than whether at one stage.
The office of dictator had ironically been abolished by Antony after Caesar's assassination.Has Sextus been proclaimed dictator.
Thanks, glad you are enjoying it.This is the only TL that I'm actively following at the moment.
She knows patience is vital to achieving her aims.What about Cleopatra?
You'll have to wait and see to find out.Also, if Italy is lost, what will Antonius do? I see material for splitting the Ronan Empire, though I doubt that's your intention.
Sextus is already planning on how to get out of Italy and what his next move is going to be.slydessertfox
Ugh! I was worried if any revolt in Italy would be quickly crushed and this is looking ominous. Agrippa is too capable as a commander, both by land and sea, which could be fatal even if Sextus gets his legions out OK. [Sounds like he's planning on Italy to fall back into Caesarian hands again but hopes to get something out of it, possibly emerging as the clear leader of the republicans or picking up some useful assets]. However that all presumes that he manages to avoid disaster.
You are correct, Antonius is not going to be very happy when he hears about Agrippa sending Lepidus into exile without any authority to do so. At the same time, Agrippa's not just going to lay down his newly one command. How the Antonian generals in the north (i.e. Gaul) handle the situation is going to be crucial to Agrippa holding on to his power or not.The other question, with a single and capable leader in command of Italy, is how Agrippa and Antonius will get on. Both are military men who's power is in control of the legions so they could gel or utterly mistrust each other. If the latter one has the wealth of the east at his command, if he can defeat the Parthian invasion but the other has the manpower and prestige of Rome.
That is always a possibility.Given his rapid change of position and long history of involvement with the Caesarians I wonder if Calvinus was deliberately acting as some sort of agent provocatur, possibly seeking to smoke out dissenters before they get too numerous or even as part of some plot to totally discredit Lepidus.
Yeah, without a navy to deal with Ahenobarbus and Sextus, Agrippa's going to have a tough time. Though you are right, he is much more competent ITTL than Lepidus. I can see the people showing a little more sympathy or him though, because he is not an aristocrat and was friends with Julius Caesar's heir. He's going to stress that point, that he's merely carrying on with Octavian's wishes (maybe even styling himself as Octavian's heir) , because its the only card other than the military he has right now.Its not over yet and as long as Sextus controls the seas he can cut the food supply again and Agrippa has to face angry citizens. However I suspect Agrippa will be a lot more competent that Lepidus was.
Steve
Thanks!Interesting series of updates! Agrippa honestly was too wasted to simply remain in the shadow, while I'm concerned about the loss of Syria and Iudaea. Now I'm curious to see if Anatolia will fall as well or if Egypt will be the next target...
Well the situation in the east isn't much worse than it was OTL. Even when Antonius took a large force back to Italy with him OTL to deal with the aftermath of Lucius and Fulvia's failed attempt to oust Octavian, Bassus acheived remarkable success with what he had.Anyway I don't think the Romans in this kind of situation will be able to hold Asia Minor for the moment, so maybe a new Plotemaic empire could arise again?
Well there were sporadic revolts OTL during the years from Caesar to Octavian's triumph at Actium, but the Antonian leaders in Gaul seemed to do just fine subduing them. So at least for now, I don't see why that would change, but new developments could change that.And the West is chaotic as usual... It's surprising the Gauls didn't search yet the opportunity to revolt... maybe they're missing a new Vercingetorix?
It's good that Antonius regained Syria, but without the support of the West I don't think he could make great progress respect to OTL... However, he could still try to win the support of the Greeks in some way, and fight the Romans with them. In substance, he could try to raise the flag of Hellenism against Romanity, and push for a secession of the East by creating a sort of united Hellenistic nation... At that point, what he had to lose?