Would Germany be able to invade the British Isles in TL191 in the Second Great War if Britain fights on long enough? Assume that the US doesn't get involved, since then it would be a German/US victory for sure.
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Is Operation Sealion plausible in TL 191?
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Certainly plausible, but not enormously likely. Any Germany that wins WW1 is likely to be in a fundamentally stronger position than the Third Reich was OTL, in particular in that it will retain and presumably build on its strong naval base. That said, actually invading Britain would still be very challenging, and while I don't recall if in TL191 there was an equivalent of the Washington Naval Treaty if presuming there was not the Royal Navy would likely be stronger than its OTL equivalent at least at the outbreak of the war. The big questions will be if the Germans are able to achieve naval superiority prior to the war (doable but not all that likely), how much damage they take in bringing down France and Russia, and whether they actually judge it worth it to invade Britain. Obviously in TL191 they did not, so presumably there'd need to be some reasonably significant changes to the war itself if not all the way back to the immediate post-WW1 era.
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Yes, but it would require nuclear strikes on the Royal Navy's major bases first. (Presumably German nuclear bombers based out of Norway could hit Scapa Flow.)
In OTL Germany had something like 20 battleships by 1914, so it certainly could have built enough stuff if it wanted to. The challenge would be getting Germany to actually have a reason to invade before the GW2 is over - France doesn't fall in 6 weeks like in OTL, and by the time that it does then the war is obviously won anyway.
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It's going to be a lot harder since the Royal Navy decisively beat the High Seas Fleet in 1942. Not sure how decisively the U.S. Navy beat the Royal Navy in the Battle of the North Atlantic (though decisively enough to liberate Bermuda and the Bahamas). So it looks to me that the U.S. Navy will have to engage the Royal Navy, and beat it, if the Germans want the chance to land in Britain.
It's possible once Russia exits the war. However, I never see it happening since Britain will now be fighting on it's own. There's no way it will continue the war with:
-now fighting both the U.S. and Germany
-losing its Asian colonies to Japan
-having three of its biggest cities lost to nuclear warfare
If somehow Britain remains in the war despite the above, then I don't see them lasting much passed mid-1945. A German invasion would probably not be ready by that point.
-now fighting both the U.S. and Germany
-losing its Asian colonies to Japan
-having three of its biggest cities lost to nuclear warfare
If somehow Britain remains in the war despite the above, then I don't see them lasting much passed mid-1945. A German invasion would probably not be ready by that point.
What about if fanatical elements of the government and military were the ones in charge akin to Decisive Darkness?