Is it possible to have them before 1900?

AltHispano · Jan 29, 2019

I'm sorry, I don't know how to describe it in the title.
I'm doing an alternative story that has its main POD between 1770-1820 (and minor PODs to change the professions of people like Miguel Hidalgo...) and I have some ideas for the political system.
* (1) For example before 1850, to have the Head of State and the Head of Government separated and occupied by different people.
* (2) That there were "partisan" primaries before 1890.
* (3) That there is a second round before 1830

Is it possible? Or at what earliest date is it possible to have them?

Jared · Jan 29, 2019

For which country or countries?

AltHispano · Jan 29, 2019

Jared said:
For which country or countries?

ups, Mexico and United States

Escape Zeppelin · Jan 29, 2019

If the POD is that early couldn't you just have the US adopt a parliamentary system instead of a presidential one?

AltHispano · Jan 30, 2019

Escape Zeppelin said:
If the POD is that early couldn't you just have the US adopt a parliamentary system instead of a presidential one?

I prefer to maintain the presidential system with only a few changes already mentioned.

AltHispano · Jan 30, 2019

comments?

Escape Zeppelin · Jan 30, 2019

Hmmm. Maybe Washington dies early in this first term and as a result a lot of the precedents that he set limiting the office don't come to pass. After a couple seemingly power-hungry presidents an amendment is passed to split Head of State and Head of Government into two separate positions in an attempt to create more checks on the Executive branch.

AltHispano · Jan 31, 2019

Escape Zeppelin said:
Hmmm. Maybe Washington dies early in this first term and as a result a lot of the precedents that he set limiting the office don't come to pass. After a couple seemingly power-hungry presidents an amendment is passed to split Head of State and Head of Government into two separate positions in an attempt to create more checks on the Executive branch.

Um, I'm not really sure I'm going that way.
But apart, what are your comments with points 2 and 3

AltHispano · Feb 1, 2019

hello? comments?

Burton K Wheeler · Feb 1, 2019

AltHispano said:
hello? comments?

You should refrain from zero-content bumping.

Comte de Geneve · Feb 1, 2019

As for number 2, the concept of primaries was a Progressive era concept and would not happen before 1890.
As for number 3, I don't believe that concept existed anywhere before 1830. Remember that the US Presidential election was not a popular vote contest but based entirely on Electoral Votes. In effect, sending the election to the House was a "second round".
As for number 1, England and restoration France were headed in that direction by the early 19th century. That would be a constitutional Monarchy. No republics, AFAIK, had ever gone in that direction at that time.