Is an Anglo-French-Polish Victory possible

Markus

Banned
The Bf 109B was no longer in service in September 1939, save with exactly one unit, II./JG186 which was back in Kiel, making the transition to the Bf 109E exactly at that time. It still had a handful of Bs, and the rest of its 23 aircraft were Es.

The I and II of ZG 26 had some plus the 11.Sqn. LG2


The Bf 109D which was the second most numerous model of German fighter deployed was, of course, far from "obsolete".
26 kph slower than an MS406, no armour, an anemic 680hp engine and just four cal.30 machine guns. If the MS 406 is obsolescent, what is this thing?


The Armée de l'Air could try to bomb German airfields. If done at night, it would be a waste of effort. If done in daylight, it would be a slaughter of French bombers.
And without radar they are going to intercept the attacking bombers how? Even the few french and british recon flight had demonstrated the early warning system that relied on observers was to slow to react.

And of course the Saar-Pfalz region was not defended by "9 reserve divisions". The Generalkommando der Grenztruppen Saar-Pfalz, alone, fielded three 1.-Welle Divisionen: 6., 9., 36; talk about "border troops", eh. The XII. Armeekorps, HQ in St. Wendel, had two other 1.-Welle Divisionen: 15., 34. And the IX. Armeekorps, HQ in Landau/Pfalz, had another two 1.-Welle Divisionen: 25., 33.
That´s seven. Not enough given what the French can throw at them. 40 divisions with heavy artillery and armour support if wikipedia can be trusted.

I could tediously list the 2.-Welle Divisionen now, and the other units, all of which were deployed to defend the area at hand,
Please do it! The info on quality, quantity and position is thin. On Niehorster´s website I was able to find three more 2nd wave divisions plus a bunch of smaller "border" formations and statice artillery.
 

Markus

Banned
If the RAF redeployed a portion of its strength to the front the allies would indeed have a numerical and qualitative superiority in fighters.

So, assuming the plans are in the drawer, how fast can some Hurricane Sqns. be send to France? Not that I think they will be needed if the German early warning system is not adequate and the French have a superior number of bombers, plus more useful fighters than some want to admit. By the way, they already have the P-36, too. So much about inferior fighters.
 

Redbeard

Banned
Markus, you are still owing us a plan for how to continue the war to victory once it is not just the border guard in the west that is to be engaged, but the main force of the Wehrmacht.

Regards

Steffen Redbeard
 

Markus

Banned
Markus, you are still owing us a plan for how to continue the war to victory once it is not just the border guard in the west that is to be engaged, but the main force of the Wehrmacht.


The logical way would be a push northward along the left bank of the Rhine towards the eastern Ruhrgebiet. But that won´t happen anyway as the Nazi regime can´t survive that long for military, economic and political reasons.

edit: By the way, I have contacted an expert on the French Army and requested information on the quality of the 40+ divisions, that could have attacked the Saar/Palatinate region.
 
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