Is a Code Geass Scenario Ever Plausible?

How?

The iffy bit here plausibility-wise is that the RN wouldn't be there in the first place (never happened in OTL across a century of French invasion attempts), not that it could be permanently knocked out.

Yea, but my issue is that I can't see a lightning French descent upon, say, London, and then a capitulation flight. The French will need reinforcements and supplies, and unless the French defeat the British fleet that returns, they've lost thousands of men in the descent on England.

IMO.

I doubt they could pull that off. The Hanoverians weren't super-popular but Charles would most probably have dissolved parliament and tried to rule directly, using his supporters from Scotland and Ireland and his French mates to hold down the country.

Hrmm, you think he'd bother to dissolve Parliament? There were still some Tories around...

I wonder how far, if it at all, this world would be behind ours.
 
Hrmm, you think he'd bother to dissolve Parliament? There were still some Tories around...

But as far as the Jacobites were concerned, there was no such thing as the British Parliament: it had been created in 1707 by a usurper. This was part of the manifesto, as it were, as far as the Jacobites in Scotland were concerned: "King James and No Union!".

England and Scotland probably would end up with politically reliable legislatures of some sort, though.
 

Thande

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Hrmm, you think he'd bother to dissolve Parliament? There were still some Tories around...

As I Blame Communism says, the Jacobites did not recognise the Parliament of Great Britain or indeed the Kingdom of Great Britain, which had been created by the English Parliament of Queen Anne's time in order to ensure that Scotland could not be separately inherited by the Stuarts. Charles Edward Stuart always claimed to be king of "England, Scotland and Ireland".

He might restore the Scottish parliament if he has enough supporters, but I think absolutism was too ingrained in him - it was already bad enough in the Stuarts and then you add in the fact that this generation of them had grown up in Bourbon France.
 
I have a question-- Why are the Hanoverians fleeing across the ocean to America when they could flee across the North Sea to Hanover?
 

Thande

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I have a question-- Why are the Hanoverians fleeing across the ocean to America when they could flee across the North Sea to Hanover?

Because in 1759 Prussia was the only thing stopping France from overrunning Hanover, and it was only thanks to the Miracle of the House of Brandenburg that Prussia didn't lose the Seven Years' War. Now that might still happen in TTL but the Hanoverians probably would not want to risk landing in a country that's about to be conquered by France.

This is particularly the case if one considers that George II was on his last legs so the one fleeing into exile will most probably be the young about-to-be George III, who was the first Hanoverian king to think of himself as British rather than German, and never visited Hanover.
 
But as far as the Jacobites were concerned, there was no such thing as the British Parliament: it had been created in 1707 by a usurper. This was part of the manifesto, as it were, as far as the Jacobites in Scotland were concerned: "King James and No Union!".

The cynic in me can't help but wonder if he'd go through with it, though. It would complicate his rule as an absolute monarch, and once he's got those spiffy French bayonets...
 

Thande

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The cynic in me can't help but wonder if he'd go through with it, though.

I really doubt it. From the point of view of the Jacobites, they considered it such an arrogant act on the part of Parliament to unite the kingdoms (and their support in Scotland was largely due to their opposition to it) it's like...um...let me think of an example...

It's as if the Shah was restored in Iran but decided to keep the Islamic Republic and call himself the Supreme Leader.

It's as if when the Confederacy was reconquered by the USA, Lincoln said they could stay independent but he had to become President of the CSA as well.

It wouldn't happen.
 
Where would the King hole up? Which colony? Also, will he attempt to take back the homeland? Probably, but will it be succesful? Let's just hand-wave and say this does happen through some ill-fate or chance. The Royal Navy was dashed by a freak storm and the Franco-spanish got through and started pounding on London's doors. The King runs with royalists and then what?
 
The cynic in me can't help but wonder if he'd go through with it, though. It would complicate his rule as an absolute monarch, and once he's got those spiffy French bayonets...

As Thande says, that would be a quick way to dissillusion many of his Scottish supporters. In the long term, though, if there is one, you may have a point. It was the Stuarts who more-or-less invented the concept of "Britain" as we presently understand it...
 
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