IRS and AP Scandals come out in 2012

JVM

Is it just me or are reports from different sources delivering contradictory information about Obama's current approval ratings in the wake of this scandal?
 

MarkWhittington

Much depends on how Romney handles it. It's pretty clear that Mitt bungled the Benghazi mess during the third debate, mulishly sticking to his economy as the only issue strategy when the administration had handed him an example of incompetence and malfeasance as if on a silver platter.

On the other hand, the use of the IRS as a political weapon is so evil, with its Nixonian implications of jack booted tactics, that the electorate would have been enraged then (as they are now) and would have punished Obama at the polls no matter what Romney did. The AP/Fox News scandal would have broken the mainstream media's fixation on getting Obama reelected and would have actually motivated it to do its job.
 

Faeelin

MarkWhittington said:
Much depends on how Romney handles it. It's pretty clear that Mitt bungled the Benghazi mess during the third debate, mulishly sticking to his economy as the only issue strategy when the administration had handed him an example of incompetence and malfeasance as if on a silver platter.
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Hey, remember when Bush got a hundred thousand people killed over at best false intelligence?

Obviously not.
 

Faeelin

Mekajiki said:
The IRS Scandal would have been much larger during an election. It's just too easy to play it off as a Democratic Watergate. That's not even close to what it is, but the GOP could make it look like that waaaay too easily and no one could blame them for it because not doing so would be like throwing away an opportunity slapping them in the face.
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You know, we've seen Obama's approval ratings while this is goingon, and Republicans ar ejumping up and down and screaming.

How's he doing?
 

MarkWhittington

Plumber said:
Sure, and during Scandal Week!!!1!! he was at 53-45.
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It took a while for Nixon to tank too. The fact of the matter is that this stuff coming out in the heat of an election campaign would be poison for Obama. For one thing it would motivate a lot of people who stayed home because they were skittish about Romney to head for the polls.
 

JVM

Oh, so I'm not the only one who noticed that article. I think the issue has nothing to do with the scandals themselves but more so the nature of the fact we have three scandals at once, if my drift is caught.
 

JVM

SLCer said:
Really?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

You said 'in the latest approval polls' and you've posted one poll (therefore, not polls) and so far, two polls as of today show Obama above water in each. So, what's your game here?
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As I said above, it's inconsistent. As I also said, I think a lot of it comes less down to the individual scandals and more to do with the fact multiple stories are coming forward. I think Obama has enough charisma and personality he'll survive fine unless some kind of new 'smoking gun' comes forward connecting him directly to one of them. (Which is virtually impossible.)

That said, I still think these could take their toll in an election year if they were detonated when the Republicans had the most momentum - after the first debate.
 
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Andrew T said:
Stronger than 100%??? :confused:
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Agreed.

The emphasis is not on getting Obama out. The emphasis would be on getting Romney in, and drawing more active support to Romney. He really didn't fire up the base. More scandal for Obama would have the potential for firing up the base to be more actively supportive of Romney, but really, how much more do you need or how much more would actually be effective? The Conservatives despise Obama as it is and was, and wanted him out of office and did all they could to go and pull him out of office, and it didn't work as it was.
 
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