Iron and Longships, Another Vinland TL

Dvaldron: Research and report on the climate and geography of Newfoundland in order to help the logistics of this ATL! Pronto! :p

Yikes. I've actually been there. Lots of rocks. Pretty sparse country. Caribou and Moose country, lots of scrub brush. Not good soil or good climate for Agriculture. Published figures on Beothuk population are pretty low. Reports of Beothuk suggest reclusive, back country tribal types. Avoided contact with new people.
 

Vinland also lacked a nobility below Leif, there was no Serfdom in Vinland, people lived on farmsteads that they owned themselves. They still had to pay a tribute to their lord for protection but that lord was in Leifsbuðir, and getting the money was occasionally quite difficult.

I expect that there WOULD be other nobles.

Look at Iceland. Ingolfur Arnarsson was the First Settler of Iceland. He and his son Thorstein dominated their immediate neighbours and Kjalarnes thing. But they could not effectively prevent other nobles from sailing their own ships to Iceland, circumnavigating the island and settling away from Ingolfur.

When Althing was founded in 930, the organizers of the union found 435 first settlers, and designated 36 chieftains to rule Iceland. (They were slightly wrong - a few decades later they had to recognize 3 more chieftains they had initially ignored). They recognized Thorstein and his descendants as heirs of the First Settler, with title "allsherjargodi", and accorded them the hereditary honour of opening each Althing session - but the presiding official, the Lawspeaker, was to be elected.

The result?

The heirs of Ingolfur were minor chieftains, despite holding the symbolic office. Only 1 of them - Thorkell mani Thorsteinsson, grandson of Ingolfur - was elected as Lawspeaker, and that in 970, 25 years after inheriting chieftainship. Later on, the office of allherjarsgodi continued to exist but was regarded as so unimportant that the thorough Icelandic Sagas do not bother to mention who held the post between 1055 and 1160, or after 1234.

When important chieftains, called storgodi, did start to arise in Iceland, starting with second half of 11th century, it was different families, beginning with Haukadalur family.

Now, Leif CANNOT actually stop other noble chieftains from settling elsewhere along the coasts of Newfoundland or Labrador - like Ingolfur could not.

But he does have some advantages Ingolfur, Thorstein and Thorkell did not have. (BTW, for reference where diplomatic relationships are concerned: the post of allherjarsgodi was held by Thormodr Thorkellsson from 984 to 1020; the lawspeakers were Thorgeir Thorkellsson Ljosvetningagodi, 985-1001, Grimur Svertingsson, 1002-1003, and Skapti Thoroddsson, 1004-1030).

For one, the immigrants are not coming so rapidly. 11th century Vinland is much further from Norway or Scotland than 9th century Iceland was, so fewer potential emigrants can afford the trip. Iceland and Greenland are closer, but there are rather fewer people there, and fewer immigrants coming. While chieftains do settle in Vinland away from Leif´s Leifsbudir, and they are asserting their own noble status, they are trying to keep good relationships with Leif unless provoked. And Leif tries to avoid antagonizing them - inviting them promptly to Vinland Althing, conveniently located near Leifsbudir.

For another, unlike the completely unsettled Iceland and Greenland where an immigrand had no natives to deal with, Vinland is settled by Skraelings. Any new immigrant chiefs from Iceland, Greenland or Europe are advised to pay a visit to a friend already settled in Vinland, take some Skraeling language interpreters and guides to help choose a spot on the coast and negotiate with Skraeling neighbours. And that settled friend with guides to spare is often Leif.

Also, trade. What made Haukadalur of Iceland prominent in late 11th century included the fact that Southern Iceland is the one region where trade cannot take place all along settlements - there are large inland plains and sandy shorelines offering poor harbout, so trade was concentrated at Eyrarbakki. That was foreign, mainly Norwegian ships visiting Iceland - Icelanders could not build ships because local timber was not good, and they imported few ships. Whereas in Vinland, any independent chieftain might build his own ship and sail to Greenland, Iceland or Europe to trade.

Might - but this can be unwise and risky. It still means mobilizing tens of men for crew, and being away from home for a year. And the ship might be wrecked.

Leifsbudir is convenient for communications in a way that neither Reykjavik nor Thingvellir is, nor Brattahlid. For the Belle Isle Strait brings together 4 coasts - the Atlantic and Saint Lawrence Gulf coasts of Newfoundland and Labrador.

Any chieftain in Vinland with pretensions to wealth and nobility can just build a small sailing ship - not a full sized knarr like Skuldelev 1 but a smaller one like Skuldelev 3 byrding - take a few crew and go to Leifsbudir to trade and be back in a few weeks. Leif, in his turn, is the only chieftain in Vinland who could afford to build and man not one but a few knarrs, hire captains and send them to Europe in turns. And eat the losses if one of his several ships is lost.

If Leif takes care to keep his profit margins modest then the other chieftains will not bother trying to compete with him. And Leif is not offending them by enacting his legal monopoly of trade or charging tolls - if a few ships sail elsewhere in Vinland independent of him, let them take their losses.

How about sustaining this kind of domination throughout 11th century?
 

It's not that Leif is barring Nobles from settling in Vinland, its more like Nobles either just don't go or Leif isn't encouraging them to go.
Leif encouraged Anglo-Saxon peasants and merchants from Eoforwic (York) and Greenlanders (just Greenlanders, the social class was irrelevant, he just wanted colonists) to colonize Vinland. The rest all just came because why not? The exception to this is of course the Dutch women who were taken in raids.

As you said Vinland's distance is huge it prevents significant immigration like Iceland but don't also forget that the largest settlements on Vinland are leifsbuðir and Thorgilsvik. The first is ruled by Leif and the second ruled by his Son. While there are other large settlements (Jonsstaðir comes to mind as well as the Anglo-Saxon areas in Markland) Leif and his family control the biggest urban trade centers and much of Vinland's fish.

Thank you for bringing up the Althing, I knew I was forgetting something and it was seriously nagging me. I will add the development of the Althing into the next update to flesh out the government though it's going to be a bit different from the Icelandic one.
 
Good question, because the Netherlands do not exist yet. The region is called Frisia or Lower Lothringia (south of the Rhine). And the age of Viking raids is also over.
 
Good question, because the Netherlands do not exist yet. The region is called Frisia or Lower Lothringia (south of the Rhine). And the age of Viking raids is also over.

Whatever the name may be you understand what I am referring to, besides I only ever called it 'The Low Countries' in the TL, which granted is not either but it's still better.
I have read a few things that say there were sporadic raids up until the end of the 11th century, it is still the early 11th century so raiding should still be something that can happen. And even then this raid is about getting women, not making money, so economic incentive isn't really something that is being considered.
 
Whatever the name may be you understand what I am referring to, besides I only ever called it 'The Low Countries' in the TL, which granted is not either but it's still better.
I have read a few things that say there were sporadic raids up until the end of the 11th century, it is still the early 11th century so raiding should still be something that can happen. And even then this raid is about getting women, not making money, so economic incentive isn't really something that is being considered.
According to my sources (NOT Wikipedia!) the Viking raids started in the late 8th century (Lindisfarne 793), became very heavy after 840 with yearly raids of the Fankish cities by large Viking armies and ended with the foundation of their realms. And most of those raiders were Danish. The Norwegians went to Iceland and Greenland, the Swedes dominated to Baltic and the region later known as Russia.
In the early 11th century they did not need to go raiding anymore because most of their targets (England, Ireland, Normandy) were under their control.
 
Book I, Vinland Sagas, approximately 1011 – approximately 1029

Fur, Iron, Fish, Wood, Farmland… what more could a Norseman ask for? If your answer was one of the following, power, gold, or women then you have stumbled upon the 3 things that Vinland lacked in its early years. While Leif was ruling a land larger or equal to many dukedoms and even a few kingdoms (Ireland, Denmark, and Brittany all come to mind) Vinland lacked any significant sway on politics in Europe. This was due to its small population relative to most European Nations, distance from Europe itself and the fact that some people didn’t even know it existed. The problem of power would be one that could plague Vinland for a long long time as it sought recognition from the states of Europe, among those being its spread of Christianity to new lands to the west. Converting Pagans to the one true faith is always something that Christian monarchs would attempt to do and Vinland was no exception despite its nominal rule by Norway resulting in them taking some or all of the credit for doing so.


The second problem, that of gold, needed to be rectified at a later date. While the barter system is still strong in Vinland and across all of Europe it is a sign of greatness for a country to mint its own coins and to have treasure. Vinland doesn’t have any reserves of precious metals and so cannot create any itself. As such, income to the Paramount Chieftain Leif Eriksson was smaller than the actual wealth Vinland produced. While many nations in Europe did use the barter system extensively there was always the presence of shiny things that could be spent on whatever was needed. What blacksmith is going to accept a sheep in exchange for his wares? Some, but not all. The same can be said about the nobility; what European King is going to accept a bunch of livestock in exchange for assistance during war?


The third problem, that of women, would be fixed by the noble Norse tradition of being a Viking. Vikings love to raid and plunder and steal goods for themselves, their lord, or their family. Viking raids along the areas around Vinland began around this time, taking native peoples as indentured servants. However the most valuable kind of Skraeling taken was women, particularly young ones. Kidnapped Skraeling women fetched high prices in markets in a society that lacked females and brothels made a huge profit using what was essentially sexual slavery by kidnaping women from where they lived to the west and forcing them to have sex with strange white men in order to survive.


This practice to our modern sensibilities is quite horrid, but back then people didn’t think much about it and preferred to think about the day to day lives of just plain surviving the next winter. On the flip side women who traveled to Vinland voluntarily via immigration from Europe, assimilation of native tribes, or just being born there had an extremely small dowry. Just having a woman was good enough and many women found that they had a better time in Vinland than they ever had at home as they had the “pick of the litter” so to say. It is estimated that Vinland had 1 woman for every 5 men and that half of those women were Skraeling with the rest either mixed race or White European.


Leif noticed these three problems and wanted to fix them all. But the problem of power could not be fixed and so was ignored for now. Leif decided to turn to the Lower Lotharingia for assistance. The urban society there got raided by Vikings every now and then and was still a decent target. Leif sent his son Thorgils to Europe in 1011 with a fleet of ships to accomplish two things. The first to steal as much plunder as he could, the second to steal as many women as he could, and the third to inform Leif about events in Europe.


Thorgils made his way to the Lower Lotharingia and did as his father told him. While traveling along the North Sea Coast of England Thorgils found that Sweyn Forkbeard’s invasion of England was successful and he had made off with massive sums of Danegeld (basically an extorted payment in exchange for not burning everything to the ground). Thorgils launched his raid in the Lower Lotharingia in an Old Dutch speaking area somewhere up the river Rhine. It is not known what he stole but that the town was looted for all its goods. He did the same to another town up the Rhine that now no longer exists and again to a Dutch town on the coast as he left the Rhine River. Laden with goods Thorgils returned to Vinland with what his father asked of him and to Thorgils’ astonishment his father gave one woman and a slice of the plunder to each of the men that went on the raiding trip, so long as they were not married in the case of getting a woman. If they were married they just got more money as compensation. Leif then told the women (use translators) that basically they were free to live their lives in Vinland however they so wish but that they were not allowed to leave. All of the women taken were peasants and as such had no way to return home and were more or less forced to live in Vinland. A notable of the women ended up as prostitutes in Liefsbuðir but far more ended up finding husbands among those who lived in or around Liefsbuðir, with many men from the countryside actually coming into the settlement from the rural areas and what resulted was more or less an auction of men for the women where the men would boast about what they had or could do and the most appealing going back to their farmstead with a shiny new wife. More than a few women left Liefsbuðir for Thorgilsvik via boat (typically paying for the service by giving the captain a night or two in the bedroom) and found husbands there among the fishermen and farmers.


These women had a profound impact on the way that Vinlanders raise their children as well as linguistic development in the area. The Old Dutch language had some interchangeability with Anglo-Saxon and Old Norse and so people could communicate between each other as these women spoke to their children in their native Old Dutch as their fathers spoke to them in Old Norse or, in some cases, Anglo-Saxon. This resulted in, after about a generation, in the creation of the Old Vinlandic language. Borrowing most heavily from Old Norse it is very much a Germanic language and if one spoke Old Vinlandic to someone who spoke Old Norse they were be able to communicate with each other. The creation of a new language was not something Leif had intended when he asked his son to get women for the country but he did not live to see its creation on a large scale as Lief Eriksson breathed his last breath in 1029 Anno Domini.


Before his death however Leif left several plans for his son to aid in Vinland’s problems, these plans would influence the development of the Vinland colony for generations.


Statistics of Vinland in 1029 after the death of Leif Eriksson

Population: Approximately 10,000

Gender ratio: 2 women for every 3 men

Religion: 60% Christian, 30% Norse Pagan, 10% various Skraeling beliefs

Ethnic makeup: 30% European, 45% Mixed, 25% Skraeling

Vernacular Language: 20% Old Vinlandic, 5% Old Dutch, 20% Skraeling, 35% Old Norse, 20% Anglo-Saxon

Paramount Chieftain: Thorgils Leifsson


Notes:

1) I am bullshitting most of these numbers since population growth is not my thing but I feel it is important to stress the speed at which the population grew in the last 18 years with the influx of women (4,000 in 1011 to 10,000 in 1029) like the Filles du Roi in New France. If someone has better numbers please let me know.

2) Yes, Old Vinlandic is a hint that there will be a Middle, Early Modern, and Modern Vinlandic Language as it changes over time.

3) Old Vinlandic is spoken mostly in the countryside on farmsteads where the Dutch women migrated to once they got married. Though many a Dutch women stayed in the cities.

4) The large numbers of mixed race people is mostly due to the early years of Vinland having the only women be of Skraeling descent.

5) I accidentally mentioned the Women taken in raids in the Netherlands before I posted this update, since I write them almost a week or so in advance.
 
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Seems like the raid has solved the lack of women for now. But with immigration ongoing, it should reemerge within some years, thus another raid is needed. What I would consider is Vinlanders taking skilled craftsmen with them.

And considering money: Vinlanders could mint copper coins.
 
Sorry, there is a very big mistake in this update: the use of 'low' and 'high' for languages. This usage is wrong, because these words do not indicate the age of that stage of the language develpoment but only its local placement.
The correct stages of the German language development are: Old High German, Middle High German, Early New High German, New High German.
Low German is not part of this development but is part of the development of the Low German language: Old Saxon (= Old Low German), Middle Low German, Low Saxon (= West Low German) & East Low German.
For English these are: Proto-English, Old English, Middle English, Early Modern English, Modern English.

Based on what you've written the stages of development of the Vinlandic language should be:
Old Vinlandic
Middle Vinlandic
Early Modern Vinlandic
Modern Vinlandic
 
Sorry, there is a very big mistake in this update: the use of 'low' and 'high' for languages. This usage is wrong, because these words do not indicate the age of that stage of the language develpoment but only its local placement.
The correct stages of the German language development are: Old High German, Middle High German, Early New High German, New High German.
Low German is not part of this development but is part of the development of the Low German language: Old Saxon (= Old Low German), Middle Low German, Low Saxon (= West Low German) & East Low German.
For English these are: Proto-English, Old English, Middle English, Early Modern English, Modern English.

Based on what you've written the stages of development of the Vinlandic language should be:
Old Vinlandic
Middle Vinlandic
Early Modern Vinlandic
Modern Vinlandic

Thanks, I'll edit that in.
 
Book II, Vinland Sagas, approximately 1029 – approximately 1063

When Leif died and left Vinland to his son Thorgils, he left Greenland to his other son Thorkell. Thorkell and Thorgils got along fine but this did mean that Vinland could no longer rely as much as it did on Greenland since they were no longer ruled by the same person. The second book in the Vinland Sagas is the 34 years that Thorgils reigned as Paramount Chieftain of Vinland as well as the ruler of Leifsbuðir and Thorgilsvik. When Leif died Thorgils left Thorgilsvik for Leifsbuðir and let his son Ólafur Thorgilsson rule in his stead.

Thorgils allowed the local nobility to take care of the trade business itself since he knew that if they did not like how Thorgils ran things they could just settle in other locations and evade his rule. Thorgils’ primary income was through the trade that came through Leifsbuðir itself since Leifsbuðir was located at an important crossing for sea routes and was in very close proximity to Markland. It was used to help pay for a standing military unit of Húskarlar (Housecarls) to work as bodyguards and advisors to the Paramount Cheiftain. A Húskarl typically was paid in coin and were not of noble birth, though many Húskarlar would eventually gain status as nobility due to their income or as gifts by the Paramount Cheiftain. Thorgils was able to maintain his status as ruler of Vinland by altering the way government functioned. Leif was able to rule due to the prestige given to his name as the discoverer of the land as well as through his lordship of Greenland forcing all of the Chieftains in Vinland to recognize his rule or else they could not trade with Europe. Thorgils does not rule Greenland and so had to enshrine into law the Vinlandic Alþingi (Althing), a collection of Cheiftains that acted as Vinland’s parliamentary institution.

The Alþingi was based just outside of Leifsbuðir and acted as a limitation to the rule of the Paramount Chieftain. In this it differed from the Icelandic Alþingi in that Vinland had a hereditary monarch in which the executive power resided. However the Alþingi had to give its consent as to laws passed that would affect the whole of the ‘nation’ via what was essentially majority vote. Anyone could come and view the assembly of the Alþingi and address their grievances, the Alþingi met once every year and was the primary social event of the year where people from across Vinland would come to trade or ply their wares. When the Alþingi assembled it was the largest gathering of nobility in Vinland and so this was the time of the year where the most Luxury goods were sold, mostly furs from Helluland (more on that in a bit) and precious metals from Europe. The Alþingi would typically meet during the summer months since that allowed them to get their by boat and to have the meetings outside and in public, as the Alþingi did not have its own building to meet in. As a chieftain himself Thorgils was a member of the Alþingi and had a vote just like everyone else since he ruled over Thorgilsvik and Leifsbuðir. The Alþingi existed in a manner before Thorgils made it official as it was more like a meeting place for the Chieftains rather than an assembly which had the power to make laws, Thorgils made the location of meeting, time of meeting, and membership standardized and granted it political powers in order to retain his own lordship over Vinland.

For the first 2 decades of his rule the only thing of note Thorgils did was make the Alþingi an official institution, while that is impressive the amount of time where very little occurred seems a bit lackluster. The Vinland Sagas spend this time discussing minor details and decries which had no real significance in the development of Vinland and were more like day to day actions of a government. During this time Vinland continued to grow in population and settle lands on the island of Vinland as well as the southern parts of Markland. Most settlement in Markland was directed at its main settlement and port, Suðfjörður (Southern Fjord), which as its name suggests was located in the southern area of Markland as well as within a Fjord. Suðfjörður was a useful stopping point between Leifsbuðir and Greenland as well as in areas that Vinlanders traded in northern Markland and Helluland. Vinalnder seafarers travelled to Helluland to search for valuable resources. In northern Europe after all, nobles prize walrus ivory, soft Arctic furs, and other northern luxuries—and Dorset hunters and trappers could readily stockpile such products. Helluland's waters teemed with walruses, and its coasts abounded in Arctic foxes and other small fur-bearing animals. To barter for such goods, Vinlander traders offered bits of iron and pieces of wood that could be carved into figurines and other goods.

The later part of Thorgils’ rule was far more interesting than his earlier part as he paid for and fostered exploration, mapping, and colonization of the regions to Vinland’s immediate south west. Most of the areas had been traveled before by tradesmen and raiders but they were not good at making accurate maps and didn’t carry with them colonists. The most important settlement set up by the early colonization attempts was Jórvík (OTL Halifax) which was named as such due to the original settlers being descendent of the colonists from Jórvík that Leif Eriksson had brought with him to Vinland. It was also named as such due to their sponsor Thorgils Leifsson since Jórvík means “Port of the Chieftains” and Thorgils is the Paramount Chieftain. Exploratory and mapping expeditions also went westwards up a very large river whose origin they could not seem to find out as the Lake where it was coming from had a giant waterfall at the far western end of it. There was a trading port established near the mouth of the River that was called Onmedla (OTL Quebec City), which translates to Magnificence in Old English and Old Vinlandic. The river itself became known as the St. Ansgar River, after the man who first brought Christianity to Scandinavia. Onmedla was named as such after the sense of wonder and amazement that the explorers had while traveling along the river and its Lake, especially after seeing the waterfalls at the far western area.

By the time Thorgils Leifsson had passed into the afterlife in 1063 both settlements were growing in population as well as size and expanding trade contacts south and west to trade with Skraelings in those regions. Thorgils’ position as Paramount Cheiftain was inherited by his son Ólafur Thorgilsson.
 
Enjoying your mk.2 TL!

If I may say just one thing, although it would be not so easy to implement. Have you ever read any of the Sagas? Particularly Njal's Saga? If you could impart something of the flavor of the language used (in translation---say in the Penguin Classics version), it would be the bomb!

Anyway, keep it up. Subscribed.
 
Enjoying your mk.2 TL!

If I may say just one thing, although it would be not so easy to implement. Have you ever read any of the Sagas? Particularly Njal's Saga? If you could impart something of the flavor of the language used (in translation---say in the Penguin Classics version), it would be the bomb!

Anyway, keep it up. Subscribed.

I actually debated reading the source themselves but I do not have access to them via the internet (I give up quickly) if you have a source you can link me to that would be great.

Much of this is supposed to be from the book A history of early Vinland, 4th Edition, by Professor Jónatan Ármannsson of the University of Miklagard. So it's a modern piece that uses the Vinland sagas as it's primary source to tell information, not the sagas themselves, which of course are fictional.
 
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