It was worse than that. They started a war without telling the Irish Irish troops there were to expect an attack.

I mean sending poorly armed peacekeepers into danger with either ridiculously strict ROE or ridiculously vague ones is kind of the standard. Expecting soldiers with nothing more then a rifle and maybe a single full magazine a piece and with ROE that basically forbid them to fight even when directly attacked to face off against heavily armed militia's is kind of the norm
 
I mean sending poorly armed peacekeepers into danger with either ridiculously strict ROE or ridiculously vague ones is kind of the standard. Expecting soldiers with nothing more then a rifle and maybe a single full magazine a piece and with ROE that basically forbid them to fight even when directly attacked to face off against heavily armed militia's is kind of the norm
And sending them water in Petrol(gasoline) cans. Water was undrinkable due to petrol in the water.
 
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I am not sure if they had the Ruger AC-556 carbine in 1969.
They might have had Sterling submachine guns and Ruger AC-556 and Ruger Speed-Six revolver.
Actually that's an M1 Carbine, the RUC was still using them in the 90's.

And to be perfectly honest I think that the Territorial Army in Northern Ireland, 107 (Ulster) Brigade, might well be larger and better equipped than any force the IDF can mobilise.
 
Actually that's an M1 Carbine, the RUC was still using them in the 90's.

And to be perfectly honest I think that the Territorial Army in Northern Ireland, 107 (Ulster) Brigade, might well be larger and better equipped than any force the IDF can mobilise.
it does look like an M-1 carbine.
The Royal Ulster Constabulary had used the AC-556 model prior to its inventory being destroyed by 1995.
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In 1969 we had tons of WW2 veterans, Korean War veterans, Mau Mau in Kenya veterans, Malaysian Emergency and Konfrontasi veterans. I was only a year old but ten or eleven years later I saw the Remembrance Day parades and the WW2 veterans were in their fifties and still working, not anywhere close to retirement age.
 
What sort of sadist would deploy troops to the bloody Congo wearing wool?
I don't know, but they ran the Irish Defence Forces...
It was worse than that. They started a war without telling the Irish troops there were to expect an attack.
In any other nation at the time, holding off a force of 3000 with less than 200, and inflicting heavy casualties, would be considered a heroic act...
 
I don't know, but they ran the Irish Defence Forces...

In any other nation at the time, holding off a force of 3000 with less than 200, and inflicting heavy casualties, would be considered a heroic act...
Question I suppose is was it the General Staff, or the DOD?
If the Government had supported them, then they ran the risk of people starting to ask questions over all the issues of the state of the DF which might mean having to actually invest in them... No Government of Ireland is going to want to do that.
 
I did a thread on this some years ago:


The Irish military action was never meant to be an "invasion" in any sense but more the creation of corridors to allow Catholics to move south. The other aspect of it was a diplomatic offensive aimed primarily at Washington, the aim of which was to bring American pressure to bear on the UK Government to dismantle a political and economic system which didn't look far removed from some of the excesses seen elsewhere at the time.

The British response would rapidly overwhelm the Irish and indeed would rapidly become (as happened in OTL Desert Storm in 1991) a punitive exercise. I had the British effectively destroy the Irish armed forces before a ceasefire.

The political consequences would be considerable - in Ulster, the militant Protestants would rapidly take over and it would take a second British military intervention, under pressure from Washington, to end the reign of terror. The journey from there to a peace would be long and fraught but the "Troubles" would end in 1972 rather than 25 years later. For Ireland, the ill-fated incursion would be politically disastrous for Jack Lynch and Fianna Fail which would fall apart and be replaced by a more conservative rural political force but power would consolidate around Fine Gael. Ireland would enter a period of introversion eschewing EEC membership in 1973 and remaining insular for a decade or more.

For Britain, the short-lived but successful conflict achieved with very little loss of life would be a huge fillip for Wilson's Government which would win a third term in the autumn of 1969.
Nice work.
An interesting spin on the conflict.
 
Again, while it might amuse you, the UK Government isn't going to start bombing Dublin, it didn't really work out well long term for them the last time.



Alright I'll grant actual bombing is unlikely unless provoked, but low, slow overflights with full bomb bays and the doors open are another matter,
 
Alright I'll grant actual bombing is unlikely unless provoked, but low, slow overflights with full bomb bays and the doors open are another matter,
Why? The Irish military at any point is horrible outmatched, that's not in debate. The UK defeating the Army in the field, everyone just shakes their head at how suicidal the Irish Government is. Threatening or actually bombing the Capital of a nation that literally can't threaten the UK in any meaningful way... Well just remember the UK came to the table finally in 1922 because in part the Dominions and the US forced them to, threatening a massive civilian target when not needed given Anglo-Irish history seems like the possibility of an own goal like killing the leaders of the Rising.
 
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Why? The Irish military at any point is horrible outmatched, that's not in debate. The UK defeating the Army in the field, everyone just shakes their head at how suicidal the Irish Government is. Threatening or actually bombing the Capital of a nation that literally can't threaten the UK in any meaningful way... Well just remember the UK came to the table finally in 1922 because in part the Dominions and the US forced them to, threatening a massive civilian target when not needed given Anglo-Irish history seems like the possibility of an own goal like killing the leaders of the Rising.

It's unlikely to be necessary even in a situation where the Irish had went full crazy, but a bomber overflight that either shows that it could drop bombs and doesn't or drops paper as a message is a valid tactic to force people to the table without further loss of life.

You'd basically need somebody mind controlling the entire Irish government for it to be necessary though.
 
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