Iran-Iraq War Ends in 1982

Iraq may be inclined to go in for WMDs in any case, in order to deter Iran and project its power regionally. It's entirely open to question what will happen to the Kurds: Will there be a rebellion?
 

True however I think its fair to say that the Israeli raid destroyed its nuclear program whilst it wasn't until the US headed over some chemical weapons that Saddam started creating them himself so I think its fair to question how capable his Iraq was of independently creating WMDs.
 
True however I think its fair to say that the Israeli raid destroyed its nuclear program whilst it wasn't until the US headed over some chemical weapons that Saddam started creating them himself so I think its fair to question how capable his Iraq was of independently creating WMDs.

I'm pretty sure most of the stuff he used to create chemical weapons was purchased in Europe.
 

CaliGuy

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Iraq may be inclined to go in for WMDs in any case, in order to deter Iran and project its power regionally. It's entirely open to question what will happen to the Kurds: Will there be a rebellion?
Well, why exactly did the Kurds rebel in our TL?
 
Why would the Islamic Republic have not wanted to push on into Iraq, overthrow the dictatorship that had invaded them, and try to spread the revolution? Doable, perhaps, but you would need different personalities in charge.

Maybe they didn´t stop there and go for Baath Syria 30+ years early and Yemen ?
 
I'm pretty sure most of the stuff he used to create chemical weapons was purchased in Europe.

Good point however I think the main point about not being able to produce itself still stands.

Well, why exactly did the Kurds rebel in our TL?

Decades of neglect form different Iraqi governments combined with defeat in the Gulf War lead many Kurds to believe now was the time to strike against Saddam and create an autonomous region in Iraq.
 

CaliGuy

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Decades of neglect form different Iraqi governments combined with defeat in the Gulf War lead many Kurds to believe now was the time to strike against Saddam and create an autonomous region in Iraq.
So, no Iraqi implosion/internal weakness = no Kurdish rebellion?
 
So, no Iraqi implosion/internal weakness = no Kurdish rebellion?

I would say so as whilst the Iraq-Iran war wasn't the victory Saddam wanted he control over Iraq was;t challenged during it whilst with the Gulf War the destruction of his armies led to his control being challenged by the Kurds and Shia.
 

CaliGuy

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I would say so as whilst the Iraq-Iran war wasn't the victory Saddam wanted he control over Iraq was;t challenged during it whilst with the Gulf War the destruction of his armies led to his control being challenged by the Kurds and Shia.
OK; makes sense. :)
 
The way i like to "run" with this is that following some kind of armistice in 1982, Iran then forges closer relations to USSR primarily to restock it's military, so they get a lot more gear from USSR until the 1990s at least, while there might be some kind of collaboration in Afghanistan against the US backed jihadists like bin Laden, with Iran taking a gradually inceasing role (and influence). At the same time, with both economies much less affected and much less loss of life, Iraq accelerates it's nuclear program, and Iran does same as a response. Where this goes i'd like to hear plausible scenarios too, perhaps both get the nuke in the nineties (with the americans aghasted and the israelis crapping themselves).

Some members pointed that Khomeini was far too radical in his beliefs to do what i suggest above, namely reproachment with USSR and a nuke program, but as apparently there was a coup attempt against him in 1982, you could have that succeed, so there should be an armistice with Iraq. You could also have perhaps the iraqis doing better militarily in 1980-1982 and Iran's retaking of it's territories being slower and more bloody for them, which could also lead to an armistice.
 
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