Iran Coup of 56 becomes National News

[Plumber]

We live in a sad country when it's acceptable to destroy a legit democracy by claiming it was Communist.

Whatever happened to the FDR-Truman-LBJ tradition of being proud of your country and wanting to make it better for everyone?

If your want more info: Truman refused to coup "anti-American" dictators, Ike started that. JFK did it even more than Ike, setting a bad precedent in stone.

 

[Killer300]

Well, I made this thread to create a POD where these coups are no longer publicly acceptable, and Americans are MUCH more suspect of US foreign policy. Not to mention maybe don't go along with certain things as much.

 

[MerryPrankster]

Well, I made this thread to create a POD where these coups are no longer publicly acceptable, and Americans are MUCH more suspect of US foreign policy. Not to mention maybe don't go along with certain things as much.

Given Mossadegh's dictatorial and loopy ways, a better coup to "turn off" Americans to black-ops might be the one in Guatemala, which I think was that same year.

I remember watching some scary 1950s newsreels about "Communism in Guatemala!" but (I think) it turns out Arbenz was eminent-domaining unused land that United Fruit had lied about the tax value of.

And the government that took over after Arbenz's coup was, how shall I put it delicately, extremely racist and abusive.

The full story of that might outrage Americans far more than removing a scary demagogue.

 

[Plumber]

Well, I made this thread to create a POD where these coups are no longer publicly acceptable, and Americans are MUCH more suspect of US foreign policy. Not to mention maybe don't go along with certain things as much.

MacArthur dies after Inchon, before the Chinese cross the Yalu, Korean War over by Christmas 1950, Truman or Stevenson wins in 1952. Harold Stassen or Earl Warren win in 1956.
Or China doesn't go Red.

Given Mossadegh's dictatorial and loopy ways, a better coup to "turn off" Americans to black-ops might be the one in Guatemala, which I think was that same year.

I remember watching some scary 1950s newsreels about "Communism in Guatemala!" but (I think) it turns out Arbenz was eminent-domaining unused land that United Fruit had lied about the tax value of.

And the government that took over after Arbenz's coup was, how shall I put it delicately, extremely racist and abusive.

The full story of that might outrage Americans far more than removing a scary demagogue.

I'm not sure, Latin America has a history of being the US' plaything. Iran was notable because it was the first non-Latin American regime change we enacted. Also notable is that Truman refused to remove Arbenz.

 

[Killer300]

Hmm. That gives me an idea. I'll get to it in another thread though.

 

[MerryPrankster]

I'm not sure, Latin America has a history of being the US' plaything. Iran was notable because it was the first non-Latin American regime change we enacted. Also notable is that Truman refused to remove Arbenz.

Yes, but wasn't the post-coup government bad even by banana-republic standards?

 

[Killer300]

MerryPrankster... that scares me. That's insanely bad, considering the track record of the region. That would be like North Korea levels.

 

[Plumber]

Yes, but wasn't the post-coup government bad even by banana-republic standards?

You're right. It was genocidal towards the Maya minority and was eager to kill pretty much anyone in it's way, and many who weren't. Unfortunately, that wasn't that out of the ordinary in Central America during the Cold War. But Guatemala was the first and longest.

 

[Killer300]

... The USA has much to answer for in those countries. A lot.